Fencing w/ Mythical - Page 2

MionDaPeon · 03-06-2008, 12:21 PM

In a group with only a dirge and access to top tier gear sans talon I'm sure its more than possible.

Orochan · 03-06-2008, 12:29 PM

So your saying it's possible with wis line to only have 30% DA?

Pinski · 03-06-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Orochan

So your saying it's possible with wis line to have only 30% DA?

He obviously means 30% DA from gear/buffs.

MionDaPeon · 03-06-2008, 12:32 PM

Orochan · 03-06-2008, 12:43 PM

Well just as an example, trooper scale boots ( 10% ) + the 4% MC/DA hat ( forget its name atm ) + dirge ( 10%) + 5% DA ring from PR + let's say a total of 10% from the rest of your gear = 39% DA.

But, since were assuming we have access to mythicals, lets take into the account the illys mythical + IA which = 35% more DA which brings your total to 74% DA dual wielded, and 141% DA wis specced, thats 41% DA that you could've spent investing in crits and/or + CA mods, or other assorted stats.

Of course this requires an illy but it is not that uncommon to give a rogue/pred IA in raids. I dunno if you run with one or not though in your group.

MionDaPeon · 03-06-2008, 01:02 PM

I'm assuming manipulators hood(4da), mythical(7da), maybe the throne ring/earring combo(10proc) or something else, and dirge (10%).

All the rest +crit.
+4 crit boots, best crit jewelry, gi, +4 fabled shoulders, reckless plunder legs, ect.

against a balance alternative (crit & da) you end up with about the numbers I described.

MionDaPeon · 03-06-2008, 01:28 PM

Woot, servers back up; thanks for humoring me in this discussion.

Orochan · 03-06-2008, 01:35 PM

It wasn't humor it was just telling you the inevitable truth, wis is not what it was back in t7. I mean you can see for yourself lol, pinski already gave you the numbers, not too hard to see DW comes out on top in the end.

Arkarius · 03-06-2008, 03:48 PM

Argh, I'm unable to get my mythical at the moment because on the PvP servers all the factions are just zerging each other in massive raids for PvP gear so I can't test this out. Killed druushk, but nexona with 5 second CA lag is just stupid.

Right now I'm running 62% crit in raids and 15% double attack with a dirge, 25% when my boots proc.

MionDaPeon · 03-06-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

202 dr vs 166 dr ---- 0% double attack
214 dr vs 182 dr ---- 10% double attack
226 dr vs 199 dr ---- 20% double attack
238 dr vs 215 dr ---- 30% double attack
240 dr vs 232 dr ---- 40% double attack
240 dr vs 249 dr ---- 50% double attack
240 dr vs 265 dr ---- 60% double attack
240 dr vs 282 dr ---- 70% double attack
240 dr vs 298 dr ---- 80% double attack
240 dr vs 315 dr ---- 90% double attack
240 dr vs 331 dr ---- 100% double attack

Even with Pinski's numbers (which are close to my own) I'd still rather have 80% mc and 30% da fencing with the mythical's extra 20% dmg against 60% mc and 50% da dw. And I'm not going on like it is teir 7, dw is better than fencing 99.999% of the time even when using the mythical with enough double attack.

[edit] I liked your bleach sig better