Insight - Page 2

kanolth · 04-11-2008, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Orochan

The only reason you should not mash buttons on group encounters is because CA's do not proc hurricane, and losing out on hurricane w/ insight on is losing out on a huge chunk of dps. Swashy CA's do not do enough damage to make up for the loss of hurricane procs imo. Again though this is only on group encounters.

I have never had issues with getting my auto attacks to trigger when spamming short cast time CAs. I use ACT to ding whenever an auto triggers and they seem to trigger when they should.
HOWEVER, you don't spam CAs and then hit swathe or insight when your auto is about to trigger. That's a little more in tune with what you're implying IMO.

As for the OP. I use insight at the beginning of a boss fight. I think it would be a good idea to switch over to fast hitting weapons, but I dont bother. In a raid I use insight in the unlikely situation that all of my CAs are still refreshing, or under certain conditions such as hitting perfect finesse or being hasted from another source.

Mizou · 04-11-2008, 04:16 AM

i have the same problem, 2s cast, shitty dps

ok ok on a precast in korsha with those funny golems.... u can peak 8k dps but thats all our fun spell is for

Dixxy · 04-11-2008, 03:40 PM

It's so dependent on group set up too.
In some groups, I almost don't use it at all because I can autoattack and cast CAs w/lots of procs so often that I rarely find a spot to use it. I use it almost out of habit and find that when I do, my DPS occasionally goes down. But like I said in another post, I typically only cast it with Dispatch.
I will also precast for groups or single encounters that are similar to the golems.

ntommyb · 04-17-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Helspeth

This is not KOS anymore tho. I've hard time believing that auto-atttack with a fast weapon will do more dmg than mashing buttons with your primary weap and here's why.. :

Back in KOS, Right Hand of the High Priestess was uber cause it was 1sec delay. It was good till ± the end of eof when they started realising much better better with a much better dmg range, etc. Then in EoF, there was barely no fast weapon, if there was any, the damage you were getting off them was such a joke it'd be a shame to use them.

And now.... well since EoF imo... the damage you get from auto-attacking + inspiration (+Hurricane) is way less than what you get from mashing buttons with 2 good weaps... Cause you get good dmg from auto-attacked (as opposed to fast weapon) and you get the extra dmg from CA'S. + Insight proc off CA's and melee so....

What I do? I mash buttons! (TBH, if group mob i start with insight and queue Dashing Swathe or Ploy so that auto-attack kicks right in after and then i start mashing buttons and I use on guard before insight.)

I love this idea, Dashing Swathe and ploy take so long to cast its crap in the rotation but I've found myself burning Insight time when the mob is incoming and I have noticed that Melee ALWAYS kicks in right after. I'm going to try it. On 3 seconds to pull start casting the haste stuff then engaurd then insight then as the mob is running to the tank toss up AoE's when I'm usually waiting for the mob to get there. It should work nice.