damocles

Since when has SOE hesitated to change anything simply because it has been in game for a while? I say Asslick is full of shit, as usual.
They need to change it to something useful or get rid of it. The only people happy with sleight have no idea how to play a swash.

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Stray

Its almost impossible to steal aggro off a tank unless the tank is a sucky one. Its also not designed for that (but that is maybe just a personal opinion).

SOH works fine. It rescues squishies and gives extra hate to fighters. Sometimes the mob runs to you, mostly the mob runs back to the fighter(s).

BUT:
The better groups and guilds get, the more times it will happen that SoH does not cut it. The issue likely lies in the amount of hate transfer involved. Better groups/raids have much more hate involved, meaning that the amount that SoH offers for manipulation is relatively low compared to 'average' groups and raids.

Having said that - SoH is mainly about rescuing. Top groups and raids dont carry any members in need of rescuing, right?

The latest update did improve things because the amount of hate manipulation apparently has increased. To me, the change is quite big since its use went from 'I hope it does anything' to a very usable group utility.

Temptation`VV

Well I have to comment and say that I am glad they turned it back into a super rescue. And yes you can pull the mob completely off the MT. You can pull the mob off of anyone who is on top of the Hate List. The amount of Hate and Dehate that SoH applies is negligable considering the amount of Damage when push out on a mob. The only way the Taunt/Deagro would be noticeable if it were closer to a 10K Deagro/Taunt.

Neways I can honestly say that I don't too much care for SoH but atleast it is fun to use everyso often.

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bighead222ed

you all may laugh , but i use slieght of hand often ,

i use it to take aggro and hit eyepoint , then hide way it off me , so call me lazy it works

i got tiered of not useing it

Arraza

You know, all you people that are coming up with creative ways to used this borked skill are fucking the class over.

Slight of Hand is clearly not a class defining level 80 spell that was promised to the gaming audience and delivered to just about every other class but ours.

Stop trying to justify it and come up with creative uses for it and tell SOE it sucks and needs to be changed.

I'm tired of people taking to the time to explain why its potentially the worst spell in our inventory, only to have one joker come along and nullify all that work with 1 half-assed attempt at explaining how they would use it if they were level 80. Then we we get a response from Asslick saying "Oh well theres people that like it and find it useful" because some schmoe who hasn't even gotten to 80 yet *thinks* he might have a use for it.

Temptation`VV

Ya know, I agree with the fact that the spell is absolutely worthless in all reality but I gotta say that I personaly have created multiple Threads on this subject and it has gotten us NO WHERE.. All they did was revert it back to its original state and left it as is. The only reason I even play with it is because I like to atleast remember the icon so when they do changed it I already know where it is lol ...

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Arraza

I know, and that is that is the point of this rant! I'm so sick of this scenario:

swashy1: It sucks for x, y, z reasons.
swashy2: agreed
swashy3: agreed
swashy4: agreed
swashy5: agreed and also for reasons 1, 2, 3
swashy6: agreed
swashy7: agreed
swashy8: agreed
swashy9: agreed
swashy10: Well I'm not level 80 yet, but I think might be able to use it when i tank Nest for the 10 people in my guild.

Aeralik: Well, see, your class has a use for it! No need to change it!

Leithe

I like it actually, for the few weeks it worked before I quit. Having a rescue was nifty. Were I still playing, I would enjoy having it.

Don't like my opinion? Suck my balls.

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