Cexi

According to the description, it is an exploit. It could be a typo in the description, but shh about that little "trick" ;)

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Orochan

WTF would you use the DPS mod ones over crit and DA? For fucks sake. 15 dps does not give you more dps then 3% crit or 3% Da ( iirc thats what the stones give you )

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Cexi

Depends on situation and your current gear.

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Stray

In the right group and with somewhat decent gear, its quite easy to pump up the Melee crit to in between 70-75%. I always try to use the Rager slipstones (+3 DA) since (in my experience) DA is a lot harder to push to high levels. For no sane reason at all, I hate it when DA is kinda low compared to melee crit

If there's diminishing returns involved in the melee crit levels, I'd go for the DA ones. BUT - If melee crit affects dmg in a lineair way (as I think it does), then dps wise, the melee crit ones are the better choice after all in almost any situation.

And Rippit, that's a damn good suggestion, thanks! I was getting so tired of switching weapons to apply the stones.

Orochan

There is no situation, unless you are above 100% crit AND 100% DA, ( which I doubt is possible, but I guess could be ) in which the + 15 DPS mod whetstone will give you more dps.

So try failing less next time you post.

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Mizou

as far as i can say, what i have seen, hurricane is not a 100% proc so da procs of hurricane but correct me if im wrong. but yeah i see alot of numbers when we do some multi target mobs


i am mostly in mt group with a coecer, my melee crit is solo at 72% or 67 with choker, da only 32(42) so i use normaly the da stones anyways

PS: a zerker with myth and buckler line for examble has a 100% proc, 100% procs dont proc since dw change on mutlible targets, hurricane is only 55% (m1 + aa) so it will proc double attack on multible targets

everybody who will say the opposite plz post something real , a picture or what ever that makes clear that hurricane cant proc da

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Cexi

I still think it would be worth using 15 DPS if you have really, really low DPS mod (not often for a Swashy).

I still not used my 15DPS ones, because I never need to. Either MC or DA for me atm. Coercer + Dirge ftw.

You can be over 100% MC/DA with procs. Just need the right group and good gear.

Yeah, that last sentence was so needed to say, aye?

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serum321

How much testing have you done orochan? I'm willing to wager that if you have 75 crit and 20 dps mod +30 dps will affect you more than having 81 crit, otherwise why do ppl who are avatar geared still wear the mc dps ring?

Cexi

Because +31 DPS is awesome? Just swap it out to a different ring if you already got high DPS mod.

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Rippit

Ok Waffles, Consider this:

3% double attack increases your auto attack damage by 3%. It is not based on a curve.

15 DPS increases your auto attack damage by 0-15%. It is based on a curve.

I normally run a pair of oilstones unless I have both dirge/coercer +dps buffs.


PS. You can't double attack on an aoe attack. Besides, hurricane isn't a 'proc.' Don't you remember using wis line in EoF?

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