Superbad

Ok, so pre-TSO I would normally either top the parse, or come second only to our predators (of course).

I've changed nothing as far as how I play and my order etc. I've got just over 180 AA's and now I'm not nearly at the top as much as I used to be.

It seems casters, I.E. Wizards and some others are easily able to put up higher numbers with the new AA's they are getting through TSO. Not to mention other classes are parsing much better now. Sometimes I find myself sitting 6-7th on the parse and it just baffles me how it's even possible. I can still top the parse, and put up numbers like I have before, but it doesn't seem to be as consistent as it used to be.

I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing a steady increase in others DPS and ours just kind of leveling off. Or maybe I just suck lately.

kanolth

An increase in other's dps, especially with pallies. But I rarely get beaten by non-preds.

Superbad

Yea ...

Don't get me wrong, I can still parse really well ... it just seems though we didn't get the boost that others got.

Lleon

Yeah, the problem now is that we are only DPS, our debuffs most guilds can do without and predators now have that crit debuff that is atm better than all of our debuffs combined. If they are gonna make us a pure DPS class they should give us more DPS.

Superbad

Totally agree.

Muph

Yeah that's the way to think. Let's just totally get rid of offensive debuffs instead of fixing them, and just give everyone more DPS. Way to help improve the fucking community of EQ2 by breaking it even more.

Do Swashs have to top the parse to be useful? No. Were you ever supposed to top the parse with offensive debuffs (when they were more effective, and even now)? No. Sorcerers and Predators are.. Want to be given more DPS?

Re-fucking-roll.

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Lleon

I'm not saying they should remove our debuffs, but they are so useless at the moment that we might as well have none. They keep giving us stuff to "improve" Swipe, but I have lost count on how many AE's are un-swipe-able. Either way, if a raid needs swipe, they might as well get a brigand instead because Dispatched > All our debuffs anyway. As of now, we are pretty much just hate transfers (not for much longer) and DPS.

kanolth

You're a fucking idiot and you have completely missed the point of this post. You MUST be an assassin.

As a swashy I agree that we are misunderstood even by the devs. Should we beat preds and sorcs in the parse, not consistently. But our debuffs are shit and relative to the aforementioned crit debuff are very substandard.

The point I derive in this post is, what are we? Depending on the next hate update, we might lose our desirability in a raid altogether. So why don't you go fuck yourself Muph?

Rippit

I don't see any big issues. I stand pound for pound in this xpac about that same as I did in RoK against my guild's predators, sorcerers, other rogues, enchanters, etc. Our SK went from 'solid' dps to 'winning the parse almost every fight' though. I wouldn't say the problem is related to our class and aa's atm. We're still doing pretty good.

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Hey, do I preach to you when you're laying stoned in the gutter? No.

Superbad

The issues are that it's been clearly stated by Aeralik that we are a DPS class. Our debuffs no longer make much of a difference, if at all. Minus T-Swipe. So why not either improve our debuffs, or improve our dps?