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Old 01-10-2009, 03:19 PM  
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that's a lot of assuming!

oh, and why the fuck are people upset about a blue aoe proc on our mythical? have people not seen the destructive power of the axe of war!?!?!?!
They're dumb.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:03 PM  
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This is the coming change I will hate the most.
Rogues and preds will have to lower down their dps or they'll gank aggro in a few seconds into the fight.
the offtank will still need 2 healers in group, right? so basically we are adding 1 healer to the raidforce and we are having both coercer and dirge in that group to buff 1 only class. I expect raidwide dps will go down a lot if the MT group is gonna be like that.
offtanks dont always require 2 healers and definetly not a coercer over an illusionist.
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:33 AM  
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Apply to MT, three procs of about 8k hate each proc that can go off over a 30 second period. Or apply to a dpser for 3 procs of about 6k hate decrease that can go off over a 30 second period. Recast 60 seconds, appears it can be stacked once prior casting expires....

There is also a level 73 upgrade to this CA.

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Old 01-12-2009, 02:11 PM  
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I use sleight of hand on all big named fights where I am stuck on the named for debuffs. I have a rotation of three templars on macros that I target for it and I hit it when all my CAs are refreshing, or when the tank is having a hard time situating it. As such I never ever rip aggro.

At times tho I feel sorry when you watch your raid wipe and you're one of the last to go down

Sleight of Hand does not have a range, and it works raidwide. Fights like Nex and Byzola it's an awesome skill to have. Grouping however, not so awesome. Non-raiders got screwed with Sleight of Hand.
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:43 AM  
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Sleight of Hand has it's uses. Purely situational and you need to know those situations. Because of its long range, great for getting a ping-ponging mob back to the MT.

The changes to the Swarthy line essentially turn Swashes into Threat buff spammers. Tanks responsible for their own aggro? I think not.

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Old 01-13-2009, 10:29 AM  
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Can you use Swarthy Disorder on yourself?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:43 AM  
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:32 PM  
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Better makes friends with you're local raiding Coercer....

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Old 01-13-2009, 06:04 PM  
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Not quite getting the point of the "decreasing threat if not fighter" part of swarthy distraction... ofc u ALWAYS put it on the tank that way because for the DPSer whos peeling it doesnt realy matter if his own threat goes 15k down or tanks threat goes 20k up. Just when u put it on the tank everyone else in raid benefits aswell.

Link can be put on both at least, but with a clear preference for the tank.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:27 AM  
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lol, not that I play anymore or anything, but am I to understand swashbucklers can't even transfer hate anymore??

lawl, lawl, lawl.
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