Venser

i dont understand all the complaints on hate x-fer , specially for raids... we have a pally MT and not use Amends, use trakk shield, and no swash x-fer (it interferes with trak shield proc) and holds aggro better than a Guardian, our Zerker can AE taunt and not take it off.raiding TSO / RoK, and Avatar pulls... Pally , Temp, Defiler, Dirge, Coercer, sometimes 3rd healer. but honestly, if you guys have solid MTs then there should be no problems. sometimes i use SoH as a scout intervene skill, sure.. ill prlly die, but save the MT from a crit DA from Switchmaster..

logix

Why would your pally NOT use amends? Trak shield will be changed im sure since it is 100% OP with the new hate changes and xfer was a big reason why I don't pull aggro. Why would you die to switchmaster? lol.

Rippit

My favorite use for SoH is to a. turn the mob to me and eat 20,000 points of damage on my tank or b. get the mob to RUN to me and kill me to allow time for whatever shit is hitting the fan to get stabilized. It's also great for moving a mob rather than 'leap frogging' it - 54m range is filthy.

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bighead222ed

is it me or is every one forgetting we are not the only class getting a different hate x fer. Ev class even the tank are getting some kind of hate ordeal! I think we are over looking and to worried about nothing! wait till we get to that point and see if it truly effects are ability's!
It by some slime miracle could be a good thing that Sony has done!

Might stop the majority of shitty tanks from being lazy!

kanolth

I did that with maestro once lol. Granted we still wiped but the raid got a second chance at it at least.

Sleight of Hand can be a lot of fun, but you have to really know how and when to use it.

Superbad

That's pretty much what I use it for.

If the tank gets punted somewhere and is getting wtf pwn'd out of range of his healers I'll pop it and bring the mob back to the tank spot and give the tank a few seconds to get back into position or if someone pulls and the mobs about to AE the entire raid down i'll snap it onto me and pull it back to the tank spot and just eat the death.

I actually really like SoH now that I've really found some good uses for it.

Dubritski

the new AE on the myth is not a clicky ?
so for fights were no AE is allowed we have to use a different weap ? that kinda sucks

Huggins

Hate is not the issue here imho.

Lets talk about how it is ridiculous that the other dps scouts have mythicals thta make ours look like trash:
1. Assassins 15 flurry!
2. Brigs 15% da
3. Rangers - best autoattack damage wep in game
4. Swashies - nothing.

Sure we have a proc - but to my mind it only makes sense to have the swashy mythical effect AE double attack or something that fits our class. Why not make Mythical proc have an added 15% AE double attack? That seems to fit with what others are getting - well except assassin who get a "dev plays me" lovin.

Feebs

ranger and brigand mythical sucks worse than ours. I don't see where you're coming from on that arguement.

Aurorah

The fact that they're messing with this shit is retarded......but yet again let's fix what's not broken /cheers for S.O.E!!!

I only use "Sleight of Hand" to deaggro mages mostly or healers in a raid/grp setting with it If i ever tried to use it to put more hate on tank it also moves you up 1 position which often say ooh let's have a swash tank the mob.....lol = pissy tanks basically just use it for helping deaggro ur squishies bout all it's good for or on memwiping mobs to keep it out of the raid.

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