Hate Changes to Swashbucklers

logix · 01-09-2009, 06:01 PM

Showing the changes that are currently on the test server for anyone to lazy to check them out themselves. If this is already posted somewhere else I apoligize.

In my opinion I don't like that they switch the weapon just to proc aoe damage. They made the overall damage of the weapon significantly lower and still no increase to DA/Crit/Flurry like other scout mythical's. Also they lowered the proc rate of the damage on the weapon from 2.9times per min to 2.3time per min. On the subject of hate, I think our Swarthy line has become completely under par to what it should be. It is good for a quick reinforcement if a mob is running rampant but only 3 trigger's with a 1 minute recast? I like many others I'm sure are very disappointed by this update to our class specifically. I don't see me being worthy of a MT grp spot in raids anymore and only benficial for my enhanced tswipe and debuffs.

Slips · 01-09-2009, 06:23 PM

Tank
3 healers
Dirge
Coercer
!

Pinski · 01-09-2009, 09:30 PM

Is it just me, or does Sleight of Hand blow compared to Swarthy Disorder?

Cexi · 01-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Can't really compare them, tbh. But Sleight of Hand always sucked (only useful on very few mobs).

Pinski · 01-09-2009, 09:43 PM

Well I guess missing the top bit of it, I suppose that makes it pretty beast swap with a healer every 30s or whenever you hit 90%. Be nice and cast Swarthy Disorder on the MT for extra hate for the raid.

logix · 01-09-2009, 11:08 PM

I liked swarthy disorder when it was hate xfer, 3 triggers of it.. 1 min recast? Practically useless imo esp since alot of fighter TSO lines have positional increase taunts I believe, dont quote me. The top of SoH remains the same.. just says swaps hate with current target.

Slips stop harassing my threads!

Scayre · 01-09-2009, 11:53 PM

Two swashes chaining Swarthy Disorder on the MT every 30 seconds might be worth thinking about. That's ~30k threat per minute. Threat spikes of course at the 0, 30, 60 second marks.

Bartlby · 01-10-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scayre

Two swashes chaining Swarthy Disorder on the MT every 30 seconds might be worth thinking about. That's ~30k threat per minute. Threat spikes of course at the 0, 30, 60 second marks.

That would involve some kind of cohesion that only 3% of the EQ2 population holds. For the rest... the skill will serve as a space in the knowledge book or a frustration tactic used to discourage some shitty pick-up OT that no one likes.

Menk · 01-10-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slips

Tank
3 healers
Dirge
Coercer
!

This is the coming change I will hate the most.
Rogues and preds will have to lower down their dps or they'll gank aggro in a few seconds into the fight.
the offtank will still need 2 healers in group, right? so basically we are adding 1 healer to the raidforce and we are having both coercer and dirge in that group to buff 1 only class. I expect raidwide dps will go down a lot if the MT group is gonna be like that.

Feebs · 01-10-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Menk

This is the coming change I will hate the most.
Rogues and preds will have to lower down their dps or they'll gank aggro in a few seconds into the fight.
the offtank will still need 2 healers in group, right? so basically we are adding 1 healer to the raidforce and we are having both coercer and dirge in that group to buff 1 only class. I expect raidwide dps will go down a lot if the MT group is gonna be like that.

that's a lot of assuming!

oh, and why the fuck are people upset about a blue aoe proc on our mythical? have people not seen the destructive power of the axe of war!?!?!?!