Wis Build?

Zedee · 01-11-2009, 01:14 PM

Found this build on Sony's site
Swashbuckler solo/leveling AA?

Was wondering if it is still a good build to use thru leveling? With my unusual schedule will primarily be soloing.

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Here is my theory after trying out many different AP combinations while leveling up a swashy a few months ago. You can do all kinds of different builds, but I found that the combination of fast leveling, and limited group play makes certain AP abilities more useful than others.

I recommend to place the points in the following order:
(1) 1 point in pick pocket
(5) 4 points in agility
(6) 1 point in walk the plank
(10) 4 points in strength
(14) 4 points in torporous strike
(22) 8 points in blackguard's defense
(26) 4 more points in torporous strike
(30) 4 points in blackguard's luck

At this point respec, and allocate this way, and switch to using one-handed style:
(1) 1 point in pick pocket
(5) 4 points in agility
(6) 1 point in walk the plank
(10) 4 points in wisdom
(14) 4 points in lunge reversal
(20) 6 points in freehand reversal
(28) 8 points in unencumberance
(30) 2 coule

Adding points again:
(34) 4 points in strength
(38) 4 points in torporous strike
(42) 4 points in blackguard's defense
(50) 8 points in blackguard's luck

When you hit level 70:
(57) 7 more points in walk the plank
(61) 4 points in agl run speed thing
(67) 6 points in avast ye
(69) 2 points in sailwind
(70) 1 point in one of the existing

Doing it this way has a few advantages due to the way you will be leveling up.
Get walk the plank (WTP) early. This turns the mob around, and lets you get in 2 back attacks with only 1 point spent on it. You will not get your third back attack until level 57, so one point is good enough till then. The mob also will not be hitting you with melee while turned.
Start down the strength line after WTP, to gain a new attack (button to click), then defense. These two both directly affect soloing ability early on more so than run speed or auto-proc damage from wisdom line. You also gain the advantage of dual wielding for a while.
When you reach 30 AP's, swap out 24 points in strength to go all the way down the wisdom line, and begin using a single one-handed weapon. Coule is really powerful adding a bunch of defensive and offensive skills. And a single master crafted weapon with wisdom will do about the same damage as a strength-line dual wielder, but with higher defense, parry, and added damage proc. You should hit 30 AP's around level 30-35.
Go back through the strength line adding the extra attack, defense, and melee crit until you reach 50 AP points, which should be around level 40-45. You will stick with this setup until you hit 70, at which point you may decide to respec everything, or to add-in the agility line.
The other option is to do the agility line after respecing in wisdom. I would not recomend this since one of the abilities is run-speed, wasted points overall. The next is a from-behind proc, wasted fighting solo where you will be facing the front most of the time. But the final agility power 19 points later (keep the five points for WTP, no matter what!) is very nice for solo'ing, since it lets you get in all your attacks faster. I think strength is a better choice for the solo-oriented swashy leveling up.
Many have prefered not to use the wisdom line since you must single-weild. A few advantages are and auto-damage proc, only having to buy one nice master crafted weapon per tier, and the higher defense you get from wisdom. Until you equip two really nice duel-wield weapons and with the 70+ equipment, procs, etc., wisdom-single-wield does as good damge as dual wield.

Bartlby · 01-11-2009, 08:48 PM

I dual-wielded through out the levels. Tbh, soloing up to 70 or 80 isn't that hard and Wis spec just seems like a waste of points to me seeing as we kill most mobs in just a few seconds. Dual-wield also lets you skill up both Slash and Pierce skills, while 1H you have to switch out which is a pain in the ass if you forget.

Keyh · 01-12-2009, 08:05 AM

I've used a WIS build since the beginning, it's a very good soloing build.

kanolth · 01-12-2009, 01:06 PM

I used wis all the way up 70+. I'd recommend it for soloing. But once you get to T8 and start running instances go str/agi/int

Zedee · 01-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Thank you for the quick replies and the advice. I will definitely give this a try and see how it plays.

Slust · 01-20-2009, 05:22 PM

I must admit I was expecting something completely different as I was thinking of an alternate build with the inclusion of our TSO line AAs but I would need 200 AAs before I would even dare attempt it.

As for this post - forget the WIS line for soloing. Seriously scratch it. Rogues solo 1 of two ways - we either win the fight w/ 100% health or we're fighting for our lives. I had the WIS line spec back in T7 before the DW patch so it's not like i'm hating on it without knowing how it works.

If you want a Solo spec, give me the number of AAs you want allocated and I'll give you a spec and a template for plan of attack when soloing. I see too many flaws with the above outline I couldn't recommend that to any up and coming swash.

Mizou · 01-23-2009, 11:35 AM

DW spec ownz - get a lifespike or something else (good question is what else) in your offhand and dps the shit out of the mob - i can kill any single target stunable mob withing 30s or faster + with mezz and max burn even groups of 2 or 3 ^^ - sometimes its even nice to have a few mobs hitting u, get that belt from necrotic trash with the damage / heal proc, a ward ring from byzola and the cursed coif for extra heals - use lifesteel poison and stun of course and u can pretty much do anything u want

my solo spec is
str: 4-4-4-8
agi: 4-6-4-8-2
int: 4-8-4-6-2 or something like that im not 100% sure atm

rock on

Stray · 01-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Found one really good weapon? Fence.
Found a 2nd at least decent weapon or are u nearing lvl 70? DW.

it can be that simple.

Coel · 01-26-2009, 10:59 PM

umm mastercrafted is enough to dual wield tbh, dont use wisdom line its for fucking retards.

Scayre · 01-27-2009, 02:06 AM

If you are soloing up in levels focus on +CA damage and crit rate. Most of your damage will come from your CAs and not autoattack. MA armor up until about lvl 60 is all you need until you get to lvl 70ish and start doing RoK solo quests.

Get walk the plank for backstabs and so you can learn about backstabbing and stunning the mobs to keep their backs to you so you can continue to backstab. Go Str for crits, other then that max your other AAs for dps.

Once you get around lvl 80 and start grouping, the rules change.

Nowadays the only time a wis build is useful is if you have a really awesome weapon and not a comparable off hand weapon and have crappy DA, and that should rarely occur except outside of raiding.