Johnny50

hey guys, quick question on the INT line in the rogue tree. Are any of the choices past Boot Dagger worth having? Was reading the descriptions and they sound good, in theory, just wondered if anybody has tested them to find out if they actually work. I've had Boot Dagger before but never gone further in the tree. Just curious, thanks in advance.

Helspeth

Your int line should be 4-1

Rest is crap

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Venser

4-8 . more dmg ftw.

Tadas

what Helspeth said

Cexi

Umm, no. Low hitrate and the DPS from it's terrible. Better to spend those 7 points somewhere else.

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Tarvenbrig

Listen to this guy, this is the correct answer.

Let me put it another way tho, if you go down this line with anything more then 4-1 you are loosing benifitial things such as 7% health increase or more damage and debuff amounts in Torpous strike(str line) to name a couple. One route you could go tho is 8-1.

Thing is, if you are raiding, and the tank is lossing aggro to you then the tank needs to pick up their game. Its that simple. In instances, there is next to nothing that you can do that will lower how much you are ripping. Also to attempt to try these things will lower your dps, which is BAD as swash and brigs are DPS.

Venser

dont see the big deal, more dmg is more dmg. str: 8-8-4-8-1 agi: 4-8-4-8-1 int: 5-8

if i put the points "elsewhere" it's still a waste of points.. what am i going to do, get 5% more hp? which doesn't matter at alll when i ge a, 600hp boost (just random number) and a raid mob AE's for 15k and i went from 13k to 13.6k... ummm...

not sure if the AA numbers are right, didn't do any math.. haven't played in 4 months

Kleg

You'd be surprised how much that little extra hp helps.

Tarvenbrig

I cannot tell you how many times my Amazing reflexes has been gone down right before an AE and because I took the STA line has saved my butt, as well as when choosing gear chose a dps piece with more health then a piece with similar stats and less health. Not only that lets say your healer is slacking on the curing and a dot ticks on you I got 16.5k health dot hits for 7k down to 9.5k then it ticks for 9k now im down to 500 health, but I am still alive and now the healer cures then hits me with a heal and im still going. Yea everyone gets one shotted but the point of building for health is not so you can necessarily survive those one hitter quiters only, it is for examples such as above. Gives your healer more time to keep you alive.

Putting the AA into bootdagger is worthless. As cexi said the hit rate sucks the damage sucks and the added dps from putting more AA into it is better placed somewhere else then there. I have not tested it but I would almost be willing to bet that putting those AA into INT itself would get you more dps.

STR AGI STA >> INT either 4-1 or 8-1

Venser

aight... just from past experience / experimenting in the tso raiding. when i did do the STA off the 4-1 int, (7)... id still sometimes get ganked by a crit AE or frontal and it made no difference. so i went back to just tossing it in boot dagger and was ALMOST the same amount of deaths vs survival with that there or w/o.. grantid my dps was like 300 more lol. but meh. next time i get back into the game i can try that, but it just seems pointless on some lvls, specially if you dont raid.