Windowed and Full screen modes

Fomka · 06-12-2008, 09:58 AM

So the story is. When I was playing on Win XP SP2 there was on difference between fullscreen and windowed modes. But on Windows Vista x32 SP1 when I trun on window mode my FPS drops by about 10 compared to fullscreen mode. Is there any way to make it work like on Win XP?
PS My friend with win vista x64 sp1 has the same problem.

Pinski · 06-12-2008, 10:10 AM

Disable all the GUI effects.

Lamil · 06-12-2008, 10:16 AM

disable chat shadows and shit to compensate also.

Fomka · 06-12-2008, 11:52 AM

everything disabled already. All text shadows were removed by placing 2 empty .xml files in my ui folder, but I think it's not the case because on Win XP I played with all text shadows on.

Illuminator · 06-12-2008, 12:49 PM

Vista windowed mode does two sets of frame updating at the same time: the final game image copy to the game window, and the hardware page flip for the composited windows in Aero Glass mode. The combination of both is less efficient than just a hardware page flip for the game itself if run in full screen. If you turn off Aero Glass, you're still dealing with a less-efficient copy-to-window instead of pure page flip; full screen will give you the best performance.

Pinski · 06-12-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Vista windowed mode does two sets of frame updating at the same time: the final game image copy to the game window, and the hardware page flip for the composited windows in Aero Glass mode. The combination of both is less efficient than just a hardware page flip for the game itself if run in full screen. If you turn off Aero Glass, you're still dealing with a less-efficient copy-to-window instead of pure page flip; full screen will give you the best performance.

Grats Vista on adding useless features which deter performance at an advantage of useless features that people overrate, just like virtual desktops.

Fomka · 06-12-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Grats Vista on adding useless features which deter performance at an advantage of useless features that people overrate, just like virtual desktops.

bleh, I'am not even using that pos aero thing

well gotta avoid windowed mode then...

Illuminator · 06-12-2008, 01:34 PM

Virtual desktops don't change desktop performance in any way. Windows on non-visible desktops don't add any more of a burden than windows that are minimized.

The kinds of applications that desktop compositing was meant to enhance aren't out yet in full force. Smooth window dragging, transparency, smoother animation and video rendering were just the tip of the iceberg.

Letum · 06-12-2008, 05:58 PM

I don't understand why people have so much problems with fps in windowed, with aero on I get the same frames in windowed and fullscreen in WoW(only game I play in windowed). I don't have a ludicrous rig either, 8800GTX(621mhz/2000mhz), E6850(3.0ghz), 8gb DDR2 800(5-5-5-15). Maybe it's just because WoW takes so little resources?

Pinski · 06-12-2008, 06:03 PM

You're playing WoW. What do you expect from a game that was designed for computers 7 years ago?