Illuminator

Yes I have some grievances with the language itself.

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Anap KaSplat

Try using strict instead of transitional so IE doesn't use quirks mode.

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EQAditu

Cell widths nor bgcolor exist in strict, thus would then be invalid HTML.

But just for you, I converted all of those attributes to CSS styles and changed the doctype to strict. Link.

Still looks completely wrong. Considering how much trouble it is to get MSIE to render CSS correctly to begin with, I wasn't too hopeful.

EQAditu

I guess my only recourse is to use percentage based values. I hate settling, but I guess I have little choice.

Anap KaSplat

K, case closed. IE confirmed, again, to be stupid.

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Morara

But at least it isn't made by furries.

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Aollish

Your coding is old. Your tables are badly coded; use styles for width and border properties.

2 Doc types? HTML 4 Loose and strict?? HTML?? wtf??

You have specified widths for Col 1, 3 and 4 but nothing for col 2. 100% table!

Try specifying a width for your second column. That way the browsers don't have to try and invent a width.

EQAditu

You seem to be missing the point. Using full-CSS and zero-CSS gives the same result. MSIE will not do it as well as FireFox.

Never heard of HTML comments? I guess not.

That's the entire point of this post! Firefox has absolutely no problem doing such simple layout logic but it seems completely beyond MSIE's capability. If you have 10 apples(total width) and you take away 1+2+4 (c1+c3+c4) apples... How many apples do you have left? That's basically what it boils down to. Give me an elementary school child that cannot figure out that problem and I'll give them an MSIE name tag.

Aollish

Firefox being the only browser that does. Should relabel the post; All "mainstream" browsers rendering!

Still it may improve when IE8 is released, although there'll be alot of sites coded for IE6 that won't work in IE8 (without runing the IE7 rendering).

EQAditu

It can be mainstream all it wants merely because of defaulting... it doesn't change the fact that MSIE has a huge history of not conforming to W3C compliance of HTML/CSS. It's a gigantic pain for web designers to have to break accepted standards to get things to render correctly if rendering correctly is even possible in the so called mainstream browser. What should the "non-mainsteam" browsers do? Mimic the brokeness of MSIE instead of trying to conform to the set standards?