Repent. Templar level 80 Ancient Teachings. - Page 6

Verrie77 · 03-03-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You obviously suck as a priest if you can't solo heal any instance. No really, you do. I've seen inquisitors, wardens, templars, defilers, mystics, and fury's solo heal anywhere provided they didn't suck at the game.

HAHAHAHHA

where did you read that i said i cant soloheal any place?? must have been a serious typo by me then..ahhahahah.
Yeah sure I said that...you are hilarious !!!
Maybe get glasses?..or learn how to read?
OFC I can soloheal most places...jee

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My only point to this is that templars shouldnt have a WARD..you arnt shamans. And belive me im not the only who thinks that. Only diffrence is im saying it....others keeps it in tells.
Just like most healers dont like that shamans are the ones that eats up most of the parse thanx to a mechanic in the parse/ game...I dont like templars getting a ward when they arnt shamans.

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Originally Posted by Kizee

You think that the only reason we solo heal better is because of repent?

I was solo healing dungeons well before I got that spell.

HAHAHAH again...yeah im THAT much of noob to think that is THE only reason templars are powerful..hahahahha. jesus christ. Do you think I started playign this game last winter?

Both ppl didnt read what I wrote very well.

Or they totally missunderstood..not my problem though.

Kizee · 03-03-2008, 01:11 PM

Verri seems like a butt hurt shaman that doesn't have as big of a lead on heal parse as he once did because of the spell.

Who really cares why they gave it to us....

It could very well be as EQAditu said and it was to counter to 15k double attacks in raiding.

or

They could have given it to us because of the broken tiered heal system to bring us closer to the shamans in raids.

or
They also could have given it to us just to make the shamans cry.

IMO stoneskin and shield ally make more of a differance solohealing a dungeon than repent does.

Istaril · 03-03-2008, 05:51 PM

By far. Shield ally is king.

This shaman, of course, has no HoTs - like his epic right-click effect (or pandemonium (?)). And wardens have no wards, like their elemental ward. Inquisitors and Templars definitely don't have any hots (Mark, Inquisition). And templars didn't have a ward prior to repent (Aegis of Faith).

So yeah, all healer specialties should be STRICTLY kept to their archtype. What the hell was SOE thinking, setting a "precedent" by giving us repent?

Verrie77 · 03-03-2008, 06:07 PM

[quote=Kizee;489913]Verri seems like a butt hurt shaman that doesn't have as big of a lead on heal parse as he once did because of the spell.
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Abselutely not...I dont even care about the healparse...as im mostly in the OT group anyway. No way you can shine compared to a MT shaman.
And isnt it great that we all can have our own opinion about thing...gotta love it

You dont have to agree with me..thats the good thing. Im jstu saying what I think about it..and also what many other has said that also is shamans. Just because they dont speak up here doesnt meen they dont excist.

And I like being a mystic...but everyone is allowed to think what they like right?

Kizee · 03-03-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizee

Verri seems like a butt hurt shaman that doesn't have as big of a lead on heal parse as he once did because of the spell.
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Abselutely not...I dont even care about the healparse...as im mostly in the OT group anyway. No way you can shine compared to a MT shaman.
And isnt it great that we all can have our own opinion about thing...gotta love it

You dont have to agree with me..thats the good thing. Im jstu saying what I think about it..and also what many other has said that also is shamans. Just because they dont speak up here doesnt meen they dont excist.

And I like being a mystic...but everyone is allowed to think what they like right?

I know that shamans bitch about the spell because the shamans in my guild were WTF when i told them that I got a ward for my level 80 spell.

It does help in closing the gap between defiler and templar because I was pretty close to the defiler until she got fully mastered and I am stuck with adept 3's.(because SoE forgot to enable templar master drops on befallen or something)

Funny how you think we are overpowered when I think defilers are overpowered.

Think about this.... If you are running a 3 healer MT group (defiler, warden, templar) and the warden or templar goes down then you just rez them and keep going....if the defiler goes down then alot of times the tank goes down right after because the spike damage is too much heal thru. (unless you have another OT shaman in the raid thats on his toes) Right there screams overpowered to me but /shrug.

hearth · 03-13-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

That's broken as fuck, and doesn't dispel on the first hit, which is causing it to be overpowered as hell in its current implemented fashion.

The problem is in the coding/wording.

3k ward that dispel when target takes damage.
If a target is taking damage then
the 3k ward would've been used up already.

I am enjoying this while I can. Until they change it to

on a mob sucessful attack.

hearth · 03-13-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Verrie77

I know that shamans bitch about the spell because the shamans in my guild were WTF when i told them that I got a ward for my level 80 spell.

It does help in closing the gap between defiler and templar because I was pretty close to the defiler until she got fully mastered and I am stuck with adept 3's.(because SoE forgot to enable templar master drops on befallen or something)

Funny how you think we are overpowered when I think defilers are overpowered.

Think about this.... If you are running a 3 healer MT group (defiler, warden, templar) and the warden or templar goes down then you just rez them and keep going....if the defiler goes down then alot of times the tank goes down right after because the spike damage is too much heal thru. (unless you have another OT shaman in the raid thats on his toes) Right there screams overpowered to me but /shrug.

Not true, templar is as valuable as defiler now. Especially how most of the mob double attack for 8k+ to 10k+ which means wards (Group and single) alone is not the most valuable thing. The new thing this tier is all about avoidance. And shield ally -60% x (what ever you avoidance is, I am at round 40-50%, depending on my gear selection.) is huge.

RedHawk · 03-13-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizee

Think about this.... If you are running a 3 healer MT group (defiler, warden, templar) and the warden or templar goes down then you just rez them and keep going....if the defiler goes down then alot of times the tank goes down right after because the spike damage is too much heal thru. (unless you have another OT shaman in the raid thats on his toes) Right there screams overpowered to me but /shrug.

Considering how well balanced cleric/shaman/druid were in T7 (maybe I am delusioned), and the mechanics of those types haven't changed all that much, I would say that it is not that the classes are not gimped/overpowered, it is that the mobs are retarded. Cut the spike damage by 30% and double the actual dps that the mob does to a tank, and you would not only insta balance the 3 types of healers, but it would be fun and challenging again. And by challenging, I mean that it would take more skill than luck to keep the tank up.

hearth · 03-14-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Verrie77

No im not a Defiler..thankgod

And lotto-healing is better than no heals at all.
And I cant soloheal chardok..havnt tried soloheal chelsith and maidens in a long time though...I didnt have much nice gear. I am in big need of those Overloaded heals to get by if i soloheal.
So..either im a very crap healer...or somthing is wrong.

Maybe I should try to soloheal them again with some of the new gear...and maybe see if the groupsetup had anythign to do with it.
And no..I dont see myself less good than a Defiler....just diffrent....like dirge vs Troubie.
I wouldnt mind one big fat reactive..now when templar have suddenly got a ward.

I have been playing a templar for 2 weeks, and it is fuck easy to heal anywhere in Chardok. Matter of fact, any where in RoK group/solo. Even with 2adds on, it just require some focus and paying attention.
There are just so many "save the day" skills on a templar compare to a warden that I use to be playing.

And Repent is sweet.

hearth · 03-14-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHawk

Considering how well balanced cleric/shaman/druid were in T7 (maybe I am delusioned), and the mechanics of those types haven't changed all that much, I would say that it is not that the classes are not gimped/overpowered, it is that the mobs are retarded. Cut the spike damage by 30% and double the actual dps that the mob does to a tank, and you would not only insta balance the 3 types of healers, but it would be fun and challenging again. And by challenging, I mean that it would take more skill than luck to keep the tank up.

You are delusional.
Warden is way underpowered compare to templar/Defiler. Matter of fact, there wasn't a need for a warden unless you are killing some of the harder avatars. Why have a warden, when you basically 2 heal any t7 zone in MT, while a fury can put up 2k+ dps and do the same job.