Trint

Hey guys,

Quick question. I'm MT templar and most of my concentration/buffs are a given, both my group wides (2 conc), aego on mt (1 conc), str/wis buff on mt, unyeidling on mt, and glory on mt (1 conc.) Now, I don't always have another scout/melee in my mt group (sad face.)
However, when I do, I usually opt to put Glory on them for the heal proc. Is this what a lot do? Is Aego better for a lil dps push? Just looking for some opinions.

Thanx,

Trint, Healer of Donkeys

Ralalron

I usually put Glory on MT... probably because I almost never have a scout/fighter (dirge not counting, or MT) being in MT group. Even when there is that rare event where there is, I normally just keep it on the MT. And Aegolism, if there is extra DPS, I usually throw on them for the + dps.

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Istaril

Glory is, really, garbage.

In entirely optimal circumstances, of which there are few, you can get it up to 2 procs per minute per glory, for ~750 healed to group. However, unlike procs off beneficial spells, they will often go off when they aren't needed (while if you're casting Word of Redemption, chances are healing torrent and wave of healing won't hurt!). Because of joust calls, you'll rarely actually get the full proc rate on any single target fight. So while Glory CAN do some healing, and can be efficient, it's typically worthless.

Put Aego on the Dirge - without an offensive stance, they're in pretty dire need of +skills.

Group(1)Group(1)AegoMT(1)AegoDirge(1) and then either Aego on the transfer (Swass or Assassin) if it's not a Coercer, Aego on the Warden (if you have one and he can melee), or hell, on yourself (if you can melee). If none of the above, then toss Glory on the MT.

Istaril

Just to give some examples from when I was running 2*Glory with max aa.

VS's lair = 3%
Temple of Kor'Sha = 2%


Glory *1, no AA
Silverwing 0%


Rare is the fight where
a) Group Healing is Essential and frequent enough that a random proc will go off when it will actually heal anything
b) That you don't have a druid in group who's running HoTs and would heal the group independent of that proc

Calling the spell garbage might be a little harsh - there are a few fights where it WILL do up to 7% of your zonewide heals - but that's generally because your other heals are doing less and group damage is frequent (while jousting is not), or there are many adds and a good glory target (Swashes on Overking, or Cmayong, for example). And those are generally situations where supplicant's fate shines, so you really don't actually need the help.

quasigenx

I use it x3 or even x4 if I'm the only healer in a scout heavy DPS group and it's really easy stuff. Then I basically don't heal at all (spamming offensive spells) and just wait for this to proc.

In those cases, it will proc 10 times a minute and heal the group of any random small damage.

MT/MA group, I don't use it. Maybe on the tank themselves if I have an extra slot.

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Trint

Thanks for the feedback guys, gonna rethink my buffs, depending on the fight.

Trint, Healer of Donkeys

bobz69

you sir, are a retard. Glory is fucking amazing, and can be used to solo heal offtank groups on avatars or cmayong back in eof. the only person who should get aegolisim is the mt on 95% of encounters, only if theres aes that decimate even the mt group shoudl this be changed. with the tank/dirge/transfer scout should get it all the time, imo.

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Ultor

Glory is horseshit.

A templar should only use it if they arent in MT group, are solo healing that group, and they have multiple targets to put glory on, thats the only way its worth 5%+ of your zw.

.5% of my zw sitting on the MT is pathetic.

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Momolicious

Glory is a waste of Conc. You will be far better off giving your melee the Skill and HP then a chance for 2-3 heals a minute in excellent situations.

Involuntary and Celestial will more then adequately cover and surpass glory procs healed amount in a long fight. (Although I may be wrong here as both will parse heals for the entire raid and therefore skew a comparison rather greatly I have not seen glory work enough to be worth it)

Now, back in the day when things like Clearcutter Machete's procs would ALSO trigger glory that was a bit better but it simply isnt worth it now.

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Vizion

Yeah, I guess it could heal offtank groups if no one was able to take aggro on adds, but realisticaly, the buff sucks. I use it now and then on transfer in group, but barely ever.

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