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Old 12-25-2007, 01:43 AM  
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You can kiss my ass too. I will buck the "common knowledge" any time I feel like it. Just because it is 'obvious' doesn't mean you should accept it as fact without question. I'm tempted to call that out as retarded, but unlike you, I'll be honest. It's lethargic.

There will never be a templar better than me....
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Brady,
You can kiss my ass too. I will buck the "common knowledge" any time I feel like it. Just because it is 'obvious' doesn't mean you should accept it as fact without question. I'm tempted to call that out as retarded, but unlike you, I'll be honest. It's lethargic.

There will never be a templar better than me....

I am better than you.. but im quit tho so u can take my spot
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:27 AM  
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I'd like to point out that I never made any claim as to which way it should be used, and that everyone else took this question seriously except the douchebags from SD who care more about a cheap shot than anything else.

So seriously, Phay, Fuck off. It was real clear what your real motives are.

Of course the obvious easy answer is "whenever it is up". But if you are content with that answer, and you will not take the time to even try to doublecheck to see if that is right, then you are a shitty healer. Up until now, I have been just casting it whenever it is up.Oh so you are saying u figureing that out just now.. if so thats pretty slow for " best templar" isn't it? its been more than month since rok launched trust me i already try that .. even on beta but it wasnt working as intented
But, the question still remains, since there is a heal element to the spell, is it possible to get more out of it by trying to make it land when the tank is not 100%? k i try to keep tank at 100% so i cast my ward before he gets hit not after .. what good Repent gonna do when casting it after the hit?

I'm out of town and not at my usual rig, so I can check my parse, but how many times does a mob hit (and doesnt miss etc) durring the ~26 sec recast? Maybe 3 times. So repent has a chance at preventing a one-shot at best 1 out of 3 hits. It seems like (again I'm not anywhere near my parser) that the one shots typically happen with a double attack right after a hit has knocked down all the wards. I.E. miss, bock, miss, 8000, miss, 11000, 9000. If the repent was up for the 8000 hit, then it would be down for the double attack. i dont know when mob is gonna double attack so i cast it pretty much every time its up just incase it opens up with double attack on pull or double attacks before the 8k or w/e
Would it help any if the repent was up for the double attack when most or all of the other wards are down?

Now lets add two templars to the situation to mix things up. Assume the first templar is going to have his repent up "whenever it is up". So his repent was up for the 8000 hit. Being the 2nd templar, you notice that the tank drop to 90% or something. You know all the wards are down at that point, so you go ahead and cast yours. (multiple repents dont stack btw)( no reactive or ward ( if its similar spell )doesnt stuck btw ) That and the single target ward that is prolly up by now should save the tank. Better than blindly casting repent whenever it's up?
as for 2nd templar .. they can have made macro.. could be like this - /cast Repent & /t 2nd emplar - casting Repent or w/e so they know their not overwriteing each other

Discuss...
So yea idea is not bad but u dont know when double attack is coming or time it so yea u can always try and see if its works for u .. maybe u have some amazing ability that can track double attack .. who knows
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maybe u have some amazing ability that can track double attack .. who knows
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I am better than you.. but im quit tho so u can take my spot
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Damn guys, I'm just trying to get some discussion going here to see if anyone has or can get any more use out of repent than just casting it when it is up. I guess I got that much, maybe.
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Hi, see my post on page one.

You can use it in one of three ways:
  1. Reactively, trying to get it off when the tank spikes and before he dies
  2. When ever it is up and able to be cast
  3. Timing it for when Debuffs are dropping and you KNOW spikes are going to occur
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:23 PM  
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Damn guys, I'm just trying to get some discussion going here to see if anyone has or can get any more use out of repent than just casting it when it is up. I guess I got that much, maybe.

K when i say cast " whenever its up " doesnt mean on every fight .. on fights that u know u gonna need it save it for the big shit .. like Silverwing fight .. i used to save it for 5 second aa call then cast it so tank doesnt get face punched or w/e ... or fights like juggernuat golem ... since he always double attacks after the aoe knockback etc .. but for most part .. mobs in VP who randomly double attacks the tank or hits the tank for 15k for once and doesnt hit for like another min or so those fights u should be using it when ever its up to reduce the chance at gettin face punched ..
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Solo: never
Group: Before the pull, then I just DPS
Raid: On the pull, before spike damage, after spike damage (if you didn't time it right).
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Solo: never
Group: Before the pull, then I just DPS
Raid: On the pull, before spike damage, after spike damage (if you didn't time it right).
What?!? why wouldn't u use repent on soloing? wtf is wrong with you

on grp's depends on ur tank .. hows he/she pulling. most of the time ( with guildie tanks ) i cant find time to dps cuz yea run run pull pull ( whole room ) pretty much so yea i dont find time to cast it before pull so after pull for me after i catch them
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