Phrozen

No, It doesn't.

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Istaril

Correct. Defense = No impact whatsoever on Shield Ally.

Valkybix

I was hoping someone would say that. Doesn't Shield Ally proc off of Total Avoidance?

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Istaril

No.

You can't actually case an attack to miss for someone else.

You can Parry, Block, Dodge, Deflect, Riposte through an avoidance buff, but not cause a "miss".

Pinski

What do you think a dodge technically is? A miss.

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Istaril

Of course, in common terms dodging provokes a miss, but not in EQII terms.


You can have a "Tries to hit you but misses"

or a "Tries to hit you, but you Dodge"
or a "Tries to hit you, but you Parry"
or a "Tries to hit you, but you Block"
or a "Tries to hit you, but you Deflect"
or a "Tries to hit you, but you Riposte"

As well as
"hits you, but fails to inflict any damage"
"tries to hit you, but you resist"

Only those in Italics will work through an avoidance buff.

Istaril

An updated list.

Armour*Notes: Regardless of the Armour you have, you should have 5 pieces of VP set armour to swap in before casting Aegolism, and swap out directly after. I recommend the Helm as a good "Fifth" piece, because it's equally poor for all 4 classes that can use it.

Helm:

• \aITEM -1728492689 1987095526:Transcending Helm\/a [Atrebe’s Satue/Imzok’s Revenge]
• \aITEM -361050828 -185912529:Skullcap of the Dark Master\/a [Contested Mayong]
• \aITEM -1860346669 -1320107994:Bloodbath Barbute\/a [Pawbuster]

Cloak:

• \aITEM -1925927922 1471472760:Cloak of Woven Vines\/a [The Harbinger of Absolution]
• \aITEM 500789134 1725651123:Lifeforce of the Lich\/a [Venril Sathir]

Chest:

• \aITEM -659458117 914569170:Crimson Robe of Alendine\/a [Terror]
• \aITEM -419242506 178450541:Impaler's Conundrum\/a [Impaler Tzilug]

Shoulders:

• \aITEM -553736340 -1856633318:Jade Restoration Pauldrons\/a [Venril Sathir]

Forearms:

• \aITEM 1828164879 -1621532318:Templar Vambraces of Enlightened Credence\/a [Xygoz]

Gloves:

• \aITEM -1178546489 1248737962:Templar Gauntlets of Enlightened Credence\/a [Nexona]

Leggings:

• \aITEM -1832962947 1628553232:Templar Legplates of Enlightened Credence\/a [Silverwing]
• \aITEM -377547108 -1376814294:Transcending Legplates\/a [Venril/Overking]
• \aITEM -525014138 -1721499693:Task Master's Greaves\/a [Taskmaster Nichok]

Boots:

• \aITEM -1910047982 480696380:Templar Tonlets of Enlightened Credence\/a [Druushk]
• \aITEM 1172705084 -1142958860:Cardinal's Tonlets\/a [Wymbulu Vyx]

Jewelery

Neck:

• \aITEM -26195725 722819823:Vyx Crest Locket\/a [Zykluk Vyx]
• \aITEM 888430210 -107059330:Prime Clasp of Sustenance\/a [Kuom’Ziki the prevailer]

Earring:

• \aITEM -592768681 1356460940:Queen's Whisper\/a [Vampire Lord Mayong Mistmoore]
• \aITEM -2043949441 2096086058:Hoop of the Chosen\/a [Contested Mayong]
• \aITEM 1830526468 -586921449:Blessed Loop of Exaltation\/a [Majora Leviathora]
• \aITEM 623972385 -1461350767:Yha-lei Bone Hoops\/a

Rings:

• \aITEM 1350475267 -771398511:Ring of Forgiveness\/a [Silverwing]
• \aITEM -570539901 -723893705:Yha-lei Oracle's Ring\/a [Leviathan]
• \aITEM -1766797669 1712312535:Nagol's Treasure\/a
• \aITEM 1601821277 -2126077842:Ring of the Four Winds\/a [FD Quest]

Wrist:

• \aITEM -1751336598 -629668853:Protector's Rune-band\/a [Imzok’s Revenge]
• \aITEM -45803218 963185350:Bangle of Polished Marble\/a [TNT Trash]
• \aITEM 2043634222 -237532485:Gift to the Queen\/a [Drusilla Sathir]

Waist:

• \aITEM -1577632147 633410216:Cincture of the Unkempt Master\/a
• \aITEM 805601675 789711716:Entryi's Sash\/a
• \aITEM 1457074043 388892313:Girdle of the Di'Zok Spirit\/a

Weapon Slots

Ranged:

• \aITEM 592925683 -7337559:The Arm of Erollisi\/a [Claymore Quest]

Primary:

• \aITEM -292990563 -957781693:Yeb-Soth's Guardian\/a [Kuom'Ziki the Prevailer]
• (2H) \aITEM -697348581 -1092999436:Supple Dogwood Staff\/a [Nexona]
• \aITEM 145518460 -726131739:Hammer of the Pureblood\/a [Vampire Lord Mayong Mistmoore]

Secondary:

• \aITEM 1181659325 508778374:Guard of Drelikus\/a [Warlord Drelikus]

Charm / (Food/Drink)

Charm:

• \aITEM -1600579390 1077923570:Blessed Sigil of Hate\/a [Wuoshi’s Heart]
• \aITEM 1024166041 991401065:Gorowynian Rune of Indemnity\/a

Food:

• \aITEM 1437569953 -1931388359:Bruteflesh Reduction\/a

Drink:

• \aITEM -1786854224 691161793:Succulent Brutemarrow Infusion\/a

Valkybix

"Shield Ally - Grants the Protector a chance to shield an ally from melee attacks, by allowing the target a chance to use the Protector's avoidance check after their own avoidance check."

So what you're saying is, that even though it says that it uses my avoidance check, ... it doesn't use my avoidance check?

Call me blue eyed, but unless someone has a bit more solid info on this, other than "No, doesn't work", I'd say that Sony's devs aren't smart enough to put code in the game which goes out and does a check for particular portions of my avoidance, rather than taking the easy way out and just re-roll against my total avoidance.

Even using ACT to check, it seems dodgy (no pun intended) at best. I -seem- to get much better Shield Ally results the higher my total avoidance is (which btw, also include AGI). Going through CoA with +70AGI on myself gets me wildly different avoidance reports.

I'd love for someone to correct me, because some of my equipment is based on this... so if you have data in contrast to that, by all means, please speak up!

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pagansaint

I'm starting to give up hope that Yeb-Soth's Guardian will drop for me.

Also, the Abomination Leggings \aITEM 114757148 -1442153388:Abomination Leggings\/a

Would be my choice for best leggings, period.

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Istaril

Valkybix;

The following evidence supports it;

1) The fact that there is no combat-log evidence of a miss being caused through shield ally.

2) Attempts at Test-Dummy tanking w and w/o high defence/agility gear and buffs showed statistically insignificant variation between the two set-ups. These tests were preformed by Aditu (way back) and myself (about 5 months ago)