Snark

Heal parses are so meaningless now, with like every person in raid using bloodthirsty choker the tank is taking the least damage!

They need to add more client information about curing, so we can do cure parses. Now that would be leet!

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Dants

This is just a retarded comment.

The problem with clerics auto attacking for high DPS is that their hitrates are absolutely horrible because of the difficulty to get enough +crushing gear to really make a difference. Another major problem for them is lack of DPS mod.

Also, consider the fact that clerics can't use ranged autoattack, so if the mob moves or they need to joust, they can't keep autoattacking like a troubador can.

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Lumpy

Heal parse has always been meangingless ..pretty much . even w/o bloodthirsty choker or lifeburn

Heal parse does not define how good healer you are ( but it does show you if you're or others slacking or not tho ) except some boss fights or w/e

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Pinski

Heal parses vs. a straight-up named that does only auto-attack damage to the tank proves how good your MT Defiler is vs. your MT Templar assuming it does nothing but auto-attack and nobody is wearing a choker.

Other than that, they are useless. Tho, having a group full of chokers is funny looking at a Healer's heal parse and just going dammmmmmmn. Then noticing the troubador healing like a machine.

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pagansaint

The only time you should be out of range of the mob, assuming its a mob that you should be auto attacking(stun/stifle reactive shield-less), is if knocked back or on an out call for AEs. So the no ranged auto attack would only apply for out calls for AEs and ranged only fights. Because so much of those fights make up a ZW in so many zones....

And like I said earlier in the thread about the IA, that is mostly from when I was an Inquisitor. 480-ish(iirc, probably closer to 500 though) self buffed crushing skill, my hit rates were about the same as the troub's and a little worse than the mystic's.

Clerics is too general a term, what you mean is Templar, DPS mod was definitely not a problem while an Inquisitor, while for a Templar I am hurting on it and have noticed a significant drop in Auto Attack DPS just from losing the DPS mod from the Inquisitor HP buff.

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Kall

Are you also aware that the priest auto attack damage modifier is like half of what a scout's is?

Snark

I eagerly await they day they accidentally slip in a level 60+ ranged weapon that a cleric can use (regardless of stats) so that I can slap a dps adornment on that bad boy!!!

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quasigenx

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. If the mob does little damage, the shaman will kick ass. If the mob does a ton of damage, it will be closer, but the shaman should still win. The only interesting result would be if the cleric won consistently; that would just show your shaman sucked.

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Pinski

That's the point! If the shaman is beat by the templar, that means the shaman sucks and you're pretty fucking good. Hard to tell about the opposite way tho.

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pagansaint

Yes, and I'm also aware that I had roughly double the crit and the double attack and DPS mod a geared troub had while having the same hit rate. /shrug

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