Can templars DPS - Page 6

icmccowboy · 05-07-2008, 05:36 PM

I have come to the conclusion that these numbers you speak of are only attainable if your raid as a whole is parsing 70 to 90 k

pagansaint · 05-08-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by quasigenx

3k is barely, BARELY do-able in a single fight, with a full DPS spec against undead mobs, with Divine Recovery and the hammer pet up.

But that's only once every 3 minutes for the pet, and 5 minutes for the recovery. With a decent raid, that's only every 5 fights.

You're zw will be much closer to 1.7k. All this is assuming zero healing.

The hammer is near useless for your DPS, Div Rec isn't a wise investment in a tree already strapped for points, better spent on DA, spell crit or melee crit or even BoP considering the minimal burst DPS it gives you on a long recast, don't know about you but practically all it is good for is the recovery speed for me which just makes getting auto attacks off without long delays harder which lowers your overall DPS.

Against undead if you are doing less than 3k and in DPS mode with the wisdom spec as it seems you are suggesting with the "full DPS spec against undead mobs" then all I can say is: "Click buttons faster/better"

Roldor · 05-09-2008, 04:30 AM

I wasn't actually suggesting the wisdom spec. Building your spec around a specific type of mob is just silly imo; esspecially considering the lack of undead raid content in this expansion. Who cares if you can hit 4k on undead when you can't DPS yourself out of a paper bag on anything else.

I find I can usually get my hammer pet out about every second/third fight, depending on how fast we're moving. If you cast it as the mob is incoming then you're not wasting precious DPS time where you could be nuking; so serriously why not, it's free dps.

My hammer is M1 and I'm seeing it hitting for around 900 - 1.3k a pop and if I get lucky with COB that adds a little extra punch. I reckon I add something like an extra 200 DPS with the hammer pet, I can't really see any reason not to use it?

- Roldy

Snark · 05-09-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by quasigenx

The mystic mythical clickie effect can out DPS any Templar by itself, when it's up.

Mystics in general can DPS right with a Templar. I have yet to see a Defiler do the same.

razieh (defiler ive raided with for a few years) can definitely outdps me when he tries. defiler dps is actually really powerful. (well, its atleast as good as templar if not better)

i could barely hit 3k everytime on non-undead and he was doing 3-4k every pull. He usually just heals though, because i'm sure its hard work

jdeborde · 05-09-2008, 11:28 PM

As far as the defiler DPS goes, I'd be surprised if a defiler couldn't out dps us when trying. After all there spells are all disease based aren't they. Who else debuffs disease? SK, Dirge, Warlock (I think), Necromancer. Only two that I know of that debuff divine is Temp and Pali.

hearth · 05-10-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jdeborde

As far as the defiler DPS goes, I'd be surprised if a defiler couldn't out dps us when trying. After all there spells are all disease based aren't they. Who else debuffs disease? SK, Dirge, Warlock (I think), Necromancer. Only two that I know of that debuff divine is Temp and Pali.

I think either:

A: doesn't allow you to cast with a message.

B: Last in first out.

Sepentius · 06-19-2008, 11:41 AM

arent you missing the brig for debuffs.. and classes that debuff magical count towards divine,arcane and mental.
right now im running 1100+ extra spell damage with 54% spell crit and still working on it. Be happy with a choker and praetors guard and a few more proc gear.

mafoe · 06-20-2008, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sepentius

and classes that debuff magical count towards divine,arcane and mental

Actually, arcane is divine+magic+mental, not the other way around.

Odinn · 07-24-2008, 05:55 PM

Does anyone know of some easy to get (non raid) gear that has Haste, DA or DPS on it. I am pretty good on other types of gear but having a hard time finding these types for when I need to solo.

Sabrielle · 07-24-2008, 06:12 PM

Grizzfazzles, Praetors, Fitzpitzle's, Mutagenic Hat, Invoker ear, bone-clasped girdle, 8 points into the proc from STR line, max crits, mage group = win. Now if only I could get my hands on a choker, two of those proc rings from VP, the eye of thule from LoA, and that other wrist item with the damage proc from VP that would be cake. You get a lot of dps from Proc items simply beacue things proc more and because a lot of the procs hit just about as hard as your spells do. In a mage group when the troub hits PotM, I have a chance to hit 9 procs with a spell, usually resulting in atleast 2-4 of them procing. If i had the other 4 items mentioned, that would probably gaurentee 5-7 procs a spell. Templars cast nukes fast, with fast recast.. Ask for a jesters, pop DR you will easily reach 2.8k on non-undead mobs. Just bullshit the troub in your group and say its for sanctuary or repent or something like that.