Elessa

Admittedly it's been awhile since I actually looked, but pretty sure that for the most part Trak's heat ae wasn't labeled as focus damage. I think it's only focus when you are outside of the protection.

As I understand it, focus means yay for wards if you got 'em, but resists aren't gonna do anything for it.

mafoe

Since healer wards can reduce focus AOE dmg, every moron should be able to make the conclusion about focus dmg being mitigatable. Grats.

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EQAditu

Forgive me for being the moron that mentions it... but I don't see the correlation between being able to absorb something with a ward and being able to mitigate it.

Normal Damage, absorbable, mitigatible, resistable(maybe), affected by damage reduction, canceled by stoneskin
Focus Damage, absorbable, non-mitigatible, non-resistable, affected by damage reduction*, canceled by stoneskin
Health Cost or Script Damage, non-absorbable, non-mitigatible, non-resistable, not affected by damage reduction, ignores stoneskin, (cannot kill you)

Absorbable being what can be reduced by wards. Mitigatable being what is reduced by your mitigation percentage for the given type. Resistable being what can be outright avoided by chance. Affected by damage reduction is like what our mythical does, or intercede type effects(* I'm not 100% certain for focus damage... focus damage might even be unaffected by critical bonuses). Stoneskin is stoneskin, but there's probably some rule where stoneskin cannot block reactive procs or something.

mafoe

I was talking about the change they did when they made some mob abilities (AOEs f.e.) focus damage, and healer wards (the special ones against arcane-templar, elemental-warden etc) still swallowing that damage.

F.e. Nexona's arcane AOE. Templars could use Shield of Faith to eat the AOE. It was magic, thus arcane, the ward absorbed it, happy faces. After the change the AOE was labelled focus damage, but Shield of Faith still absorbed it, happy faces. That shows exactly that the so-called focus damage STILL was magic damage, just re-labelled. The only question would be if the magic damage was still mitigatable, and to test that is really easy. During ROK, I am pretty sure that focus damage was still mitigated by the resistance pertaining to the original AOE damage type.

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EQAditu

Wouldn't that make labeling it focus damage worthless? Their patch notes said it should not be.

Even before TSO I think I found evidence that it not only could not be mitigated, but critical hits may not even get their 30% bonus.

mafoe

Ofc the whole thing with labelling stuff as focus is BS. However, let's say during ROK already focus damage was not mitigatable. That would mean that heat resistance against Druusk or magic resistance against Nexona was pointless, and that all people would have taken the same damage regardless from what their actual resistances were against heat/magic. I can't really remember if that was the case... I only remember shouting at people who were at 4k resists to buff their heat/magic, and that they died less after that. Dunno if that was before or after the introduction of focus dmg. The main thing I always got from something being focus damage was that you had to eat it no matter what - everybody would be hit.

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Jenarie

From what I understand, focus damage can be warded but cannot be resisted. At least that was the intent as I understood it - that may not be how it actually works...

Slippery

My understanding of the intention was that the only thing focus meant was that it could not be outright resisted.

losty

From the GU45 Notes:
Damage that can not be resisted or mitigated will now be referred to as "focus" damage instead of crush/pierce/slash/poison/heat/cold/etc in combat chat messages.

Compare this to things like Turn Undead, which says "cannot be outright resisted" but is still listed as divine and mitigated.

Druushk and Nexona do both have some focus damage they do, but neither Nexona's Acidic Blast or Druushk's Fearful Flames are focus damage and they are mitigated by magic and heat resists respectively.

mafoe

Then I am in a deadend. Necrotic Rot and Druushk's magic frontal AOE dot are focus, f.e.

Somebody do us a favour and go with 3k arcane resistance and 15k into a Druushk fight and compare dmg of Energy Maelstrom. .p

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