When to use these spells?

tippy · 01-01-2009, 07:44 PM

I recently betrayed to templar, and am finding it quite difficult to think through when I would be using some of my new spells. I have 123 AA points, and have spent them as follows:
INT 4-4-7-8-1
STA 4-4-6-8-1
AGI 4-4-4-8
Blessings : Mark of Divinity 5, Amending Fate 5, Involuntary Gift 5, Unyielding Benediction 2, Glory 3, Blessings 1
Holy Smites : Divine Smite 5, Holy Strike 5, Warring Deities 5, Blazoned Faith 5, Smite Corruption 5

At the moment I have only tried soloing. Usually, I pull the mob, put all the heal tirggers on and then work through the damage spells, although I'm not sure whether this is the most effective way to go about it. I'm hoping healing in a group will be easier to adjust to as I'm guessing its similar to how an inquisitor heals.
Anyway, I would be very grateful if someone could give examples or otherwise explain situations where the following spells should be used:
-Focussed Intercession - emergencies only?
-Unswerving Hammer
-Reverence
-Shield of Faith
-Sanctuary
-Divine Arbitration
As a side question, which stats should I be focussing on when looking at new armor/jewellery/weapons? I assume WIS and INT? Currently still waering all my inquisitor's STR gear which I'll need to change.
Thanks.

EQAditu · 01-01-2009, 08:22 PM

Unfortunately, I don't remember the last time I used Focused Intercession. With the Templar mythical, it has actually grown weaker than my normal reactives... so the thought of stunning myself for a weak reactive is somewhat scary. Sure it stacks in parallel with everything else... but I could be casting something else too.

Reverence is still a hard one to judge... it's very difficult to tell what it does in a given situation. But at least it doesn't stun you. I think I'd like it more if it was a toggle spell that would stay up much longer.

Shield of Faith is useful for any time you're up against arcane damage AEs or have chokers in your group. It's a regenning group ward. *shrug*

Sanctuary is very sitational, but a blessing for those situations. You can use it when you think you're going to be incapacitated by an effect. You can use it when you think the tank is going to be incapacitated by an effect while pulling a mob. You can even use it to ignore that incurable mez the baby dragon spits out in Icy Keep. Keep in mind that you have to cast it beforehand, it does not cure the effect, if a group member moves out of range or Sanctuary drops the effect will reapply.

Divine Arbitration is a tricky emergency spell. It brings everyone in your group's numerical health to the same level. Which is not to say everyone will have the same percentage health. So it will bring tanks to a lower level than mages. But if you cast it when a tank has like 20% health, it might bring them to 60%... along with messing with everyone else's health. If you think this is like Channel(Coercer), it's not. Channel is bugged to hell. Try casting it when everyone is at 100% and you'll notice the dangers of casting it. (IE the tank will lose health)

the_mo · 01-01-2009, 09:36 PM

i dont see where channel is bugged? at m1 channel adds X% (dunno) to the groups total power pool and redistributes it afterwards, basically mostly bringing the group back to full. not that sure, but iirc DA works likewise.

EQAditu · 01-01-2009, 11:56 PM

I've never heard of Channel adding any amount to the pool... but there are a lot of crazy AAs now that modify spells past what their original descriptions state. But in my experience, almost no matter what state the group's power is in, in almost all cases... Channel will bring everyone to 80-100% power. Divine Arbitration will never ever do that.

Slippery · 01-02-2009, 04:02 AM

Channel got an upgrade, Channeling, which does add power. DA never got an upgrade path so did not get that addition.

Holeinabox · 01-02-2009, 09:29 AM

I cast reverence everytime it's up. You will find that healing as a Templar is much easier. You have more tools to keep ppl alive. Cast repent every time that's up. For soloing and dps purposes, don't be so quick to ditch that str gear. Auto attack is still your highest dps contributor. Get as many masters as you can and max out your auto attack. The lava wrought great hammer out of deep forge is a fucking beastly weapon. I'm just getting used to that hammer but in the mt group I had a 3800 zw on the trash in palace the other day.

Synjin · 01-02-2009, 01:20 PM

Hammer is for pulling named mobs in raids or out of packs of trash mostly. Though I use it whenever it's up while soloing. Adds some nice dps and a helpful knockdown when you are soloing on harder mobs or nameds.

Reverance I put on mages with chokers, and on the tank as an additional reactive-ish heal. It's not real powerful, but it can keep mages from losing health to choker damage if Shield of Faith has expired and is down, and every little bit can help on the MT in the harder fights.

Personally I never use Divine Arbitration. I only rarely use focused intercession for when the tank has a ton of mobs on him and everything is down. I almost always end up cancelling it before it's done, because repent or my other heals have refreshed. I also am wondering if profit isn't displaying the remaining ticks for this spell correctly. I haven't seen it tick down under 15 on my maintained spells window in a long time, tho I do see it healing the tank above his head and in act.

EQAditu · 01-02-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slippery

Channel got an upgrade, Channeling, which does add power. DA never got an upgrade path so did not get that addition.

For as long as I can remember Coercers in my group casting it, it has always seemed way off compared to Divine Arbitration. I once told my Coercer to explain what it was supposed to do and it sounded no different than DA... but he was shocked at what it did when I cast DA out of combat(most people lost health).

You don't mention when this "upgrade" was, but if it was with TSO, my experience certainly predates that. Divine Arbitration does get an upgrade path in TSO, but it only makes it a targeted group spell and recast faster as far as I'm aware. I'd be willing to give up the both of those enhancements if it added 10 or 20% to the final totals.

mafoe · 01-03-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tippy

I recently betrayed to templar, and am finding it quite difficult to think through when I would be using some of my new spells. I have 123 AA points, and have spent them as follows:
INT 4-4-7-8-1
STA 4-4-6-8-1
AGI 4-4-4-8
Blessings : Mark of Divinity 5, Amending Fate 5, Involuntary Gift 5, Unyielding Benediction 2, Glory 3, Blessings 1
Holy Smites : Divine Smite 5, Holy Strike 5, Warring Deities 5, Blazoned Faith 5, Smite Corruption 5

At the moment I have only tried soloing. Usually, I pull the mob, put all the heal tirggers on and then work through the damage spells, although I'm not sure whether this is the most effective way to go about it. I'm hoping healing in a group will be easier to adjust to as I'm guessing its similar to how an inquisitor heals.
Anyway, I would be very grateful if someone could give examples or otherwise explain situations where the following spells should be used:
-Focussed Intercession - emergencies only?
-Unswerving Hammer
-Reverence
-Shield of Faith
-Sanctuary
-Divine Arbitration
As a side question, which stats should I be focussing on when looking at new armor/jewellery/weapons? I assume WIS and INT? Currently still waering all my inquisitor's STR gear which I'll need to change.
Thanks.

Just cast the same heals that you did when you were an inquisitor and add Repent on the tank whenever it's up. Then while you're fidlding your thumbs, throw in the new spells and check them out.

Snark · 01-03-2009, 05:03 PM

i use focused intercession pretty regularly. not every pull, but it has its uses