4pc VP set vs Jade Rest Pauldrons - Page 2

pagansaint · 02-19-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mafoe

I'd go for the Jade as well over that 4set bonus, but saying 1000 ward >> 300 HP is a skewed calculation, because the ward is never up on all group members at any given time.

Its not always up? With a 15s duration and two pieces of Runic Cover gear it is up well over 75% I would say, or until damage strips it. Before they changed it to not display in the maintained window, it was constantly being refreshed if not eaten by damage.

Like I explain to the parade of jump in scab clerics I've had to deal with the past year: Every bit of ward you can throw up on top of the tank can be considered free breathing room for the shaman to get their wards back up and refreshed. Being able to toss down a total of 8k+ ward amount on a tank from the cleric from Repent and procs, buys just that much more room before people start redirecting heals, blowing emergencies, etc.

And like I said, whats the bigger difference between a tank with 20k and 19700 HP with a bit more wards on them?

mafoe · 02-19-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

Its not always up? With a 15s duration and two pieces of Runic Cover gear it is up well over 75%

Jesus, I dont even have a single piece atm. One piece of Runic Cover should be the base of consideration, not stacking runic gear arbitrary times.

pagansaint · 02-19-2009, 11:35 PM

Well its being overwritten constantly with two pieces, so lets say with only one its up just over half the time with it still being overwritten sometimes?

Still, works out to be better survivability and gain.

Nitpicking over the peripheral details doesn't change how small, if any, benefit the other choice being discussed delivers.

mafoe · 02-20-2009, 03:01 AM

Well anyway, why argue. I am all for Runic Cover over that 30% aegolism anyway.

pagansaint · 02-20-2009, 11:12 AM

Because if I didn't argue with you, the world would implode probably!

Kizee · 02-20-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

Its not always up? With a 15s duration and two pieces of Runic Cover gear it is up well over 75% I would say, or until damage strips it. Before they changed it to not display in the maintained window, it was constantly being refreshed if not eaten by damage.

Like I explain to the parade of jump in scab clerics I've had to deal with the past year: Every bit of ward you can throw up on top of the tank can be considered free breathing room for the shaman to get their wards back up and refreshed. Being able to toss down a total of 8k+ ward amount on a tank from the cleric from Repent and procs, buys just that much more room before people start redirecting heals, blowing emergencies, etc.

And like I said, whats the bigger difference between a tank with 20k and 19700 HP with a bit more wards on them?

Back in the day I would agree with you (when our reactives sucked) that any ward you proc is that much more of a buffer however with all the +base heal stuff and the healing stance our reactives are critting for over 2k a tick.....the t2 arms (and any +base heal stuff) > most ward proc gear.

pagansaint · 02-20-2009, 01:32 PM

Hi. VP Set, not TSO/Shard Set.