pagansaint

Cross healing from the OT/DPS groups to the MT. Period. Dot.

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Tethias

The problem with using the doll is that you have to naturally have the ring equipped, and there's far better ring slots, and/or hope you proc'd a doll. You could of course, delay the pull until you were sure you had one off the bat, but we all know how this would fly (lol).

With the Sacrifice change gone live, I have to make a split second decision based on these criteria:
- Are AEs inc?
- Is a spawned mob going to WTFpwn me if I use this spell?
- Is Tower of Stone/Block/similar tank mitigation buffs running?
- If I happen to drop, are the other groups going to be able to help pick up the slack, or are they busily engaged in other activities?
- Am I actually going to be able to heal myself in time? (Did I exhaust all my heals already?)
- If MT drops can the OT pick it up without a problem, or is he similarly engaged in a separate encounter which the added dps of main mob or messing up the position of the original mob is going to fuck the raid.

I've already found the best strategy that seems to work. Just let the frigging MT die if my death save isn't up. Have the OT pick it up.

With the amount of ridiculous effects we have to cure and play whack-a-mole with, it's more worthwhile for the healer to survive than the tank. (How messed up this??) Especially for things like curses. Unless you want to bring a ridiculous amount of priests to a zone, you want your healers alive to cure the "must cure curse or OMFG wipe the raid", and also the stacked cures that will OMFG wipe the raid if you don't cure in 3 seconds. If MT drops, NP, just OT pick it up (provided positioning doesn't screw the raid). A complete reversal of what should have been a no brainer.

FWIW none of our defilers to my knowledge even use Soulward anymore.

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EQAditu

It's not really hard to make yourself a doll out of combat. And it's not just you that has to have the ring... if you're partnered with another healer that is using the ring, you're sure to get another within 5 minutes of fighting because of group heals hitting you. You'll probably get 10 of them. My defiler likes the reuse effect on it so wears it often and when we actually see a warden in the group for critical mitigation, she had one as well.

Not that I'll say that the ring is still super, but it's common to drop and unless you're seeing items I'm not, there aren't that many replacements that are too much better for two ring slots. Though I'll admit that before yesterday I wasn't wearing this ring at all. And I may still not wear it because of the other healers procing it for me.

I didn't want to make it sound like my solution was THE solution. But it should be one that doesn't really stop you from pursuing other solutions as well. With the script delay and hastened doll cast, it should be all over in about one second. You can't find any direct heals that can heal you for that much that quickly unless you directly proc OH/EMG/Emp Heal. (I think the doll can proc these also). You can also add a bit to the script by adding useabilityonplayer commands on the line after the use_itemvdl command(just add more lines before Visible=false).

Ultor

im gonna make a macro tonight that targets myself and casts meliorate, it takes like 1 second to cast and is 4-5k. Doll is 4-5k as well.

That will take most templars back to ~60% which is more than enough HP to stabilize yourself and focus on the tank again.

Could also cast Holy Shield on yourself after its used, if its up, that will at least negate any AE pwnage you may recieve.

All they gotta do is make it NOT soak up wards, but be mitigated by heat resists. Templar heat resists are shit anyways this expansion, it seems. I have a hard time getting past 10k in good raid gear, i have to swap out lesser quality jewelry to get past 10k. A month ago the gear i was wearing had only about 6k worth of heat resist

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razieh

hahahaha, I have a difficult time getting more than four thousand heat resist

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Tethias

Not saying it's not, but I had bad luck in RoK where I would just chain cast and it wouldn't proc on me, lol, for a good 2-3 min.

Honestly, why bother with sacrifice; our divine arbitration spell is better.

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EQAditu

I swear my Meliorate cast time is double of what the doll's listed time is. So I still sort of prefer it. Holy Shield and Meliorate are both spells I use often in relation to their recast time, so I'd prefer not to rely on them as much as something I never rely on, being the doll. As much as I do like using Holy Shield over Holy Salvation or Meliorate it has the drawbacks of preexisting DoTs(I know, don't cast it if you're dotted) and some mobs not having AE spells but full raid single targets spells. (IE they hit every player as a single target, but not pets)

So far I haven't had problems getting dolls from only my defiler procing them inbetween the 5min recast and prefight is maybe 30s of work for me.

Divine Arbitration is as hard if not harder to use because of the cast time and it's final effects. Also, I would like to have both in my arsenal if I could. I have the option of being angry like many of you are and boycotting it or I could at least try to use it as it was changed to... despite how unhappy I am.

Kriptini

I used Sacrifice six times today... each time I got this message:

"Kriptini has died of pain and suffering."

I think my own spell is killing me. And the weird thing is, it doesn't happen right away. I link my Sacrifice spell to a self-Reverance via a macro, and I always die in the MIDDLE of the cast. I haven't checked it on ACT yet, but all my log files say:

"Kriptini has died of pain and suffering."

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mafoe

Those are two mobs in the Halls of Seeing.

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Bergnj

I used Sacrifice several times last night & it still has a 5 min reuse timer. Am I misunderstanding the change?