Kriptini

The adds for the Xebnok encounter. We have offtanks aggro all of them so the DPS can burn them down without getting attacked.

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Slippery

Perms point was they hit for nothing and don't need to be tanked, they die in a couple seconds.

SirAmoel

Illy main here.

I do in fact have shit on me a little more often than is desired, since I'm doing my job and nuking the shit out of whatever is too close to us. A reactive on me? meh. If they manage to hit me, a reactive isn't going to save me. If there's anything I'd want on me then, that's a ward.

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Gardon Amenti -- fsck.tank -fy

Slippery

You do realize that a reactive can heal for over 2k? And that most adds really don't hit that hard? A reactive would do plenty to keep you alive. Keeping single reactives on as many people as possible definitely helps the survival of those people, and makes them easier to heal after ae's. Not to mention it was another chance to proc something on them.

People in general aren't proactive enough about healing. This applies across all the healign classes. Using reactives, regens, and wards (single of all) on people in dps groups before they take damage definitely helps a lot. The less you have to do after the fact the better the chance of survival.

mafoe

I dont know what your problem is and I dont want to find out, but a reactive on a mage would only be useful if they had an add on them for an extended period of time, and that's always a tank fail, not counting scripts such as adds from 2nd boss in bastion. A 4k direct heal to bring the mage back to 100% health is worth more than a reactive that heals for 2k on the next hit because the moch more common use case is that there will be an aoe incoming soonish.

Keep in mind (since I am not replying to Slippery above me) that theres nothing wrong with reactives on mages per se. I am arguing, in the paragraph above, about shooting a direct heal where its needed instead of leaving a mage in the yellow and putting a reactive on him.

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Kriptini

We don't have that kind of gear yet. Like I said, we haven't cleared Xebnok or Tythus yet.

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Rigid

I'm not a computer that does things the same way each time. I look at the situation. If on the first AE I see a mage or someone else in the raid take a lot of damage I will normally throw a reactive on them before the next AE just to make sure they don't die. I would rather throw a reactive on them to insure they don't fall so that my dirge can keep doing all the neat shit they do instead of ressing some illy or mage that doesn't have enough gear to not spike or doesn't know exaclty what 15 meters means yet.

I use my direct heals mostly outside of group for when other people spike rarely do I use them on the MT. If we are fighting something that does spike the MT then of course I do use it on the MT. I am the MT templar but I have both a defiler and mystic in raid that are both beast so really for me to feel like I am doing something on most fights I must heal off the MT. So I use repent, group heal, and my single and group reactive on the MT and MT group then heal outside of MT group or focus on picking up cures on the raid unless the MT actually needs my heals.

I will also save repent sometimes if I know an AE is incoming and wait to cast it on the MT seconds before the timer instead of chain casting it as it comes up. I know my heal parse may suffer because of the way I play my toon in raid but the point is not to parse its to win as a raid. If I let my defiler do the brunt of the healing it allows me to save stuff such as my single targets for when needed instead of casting them and wasting them under the wards. My raid knows how beast I am with out me parseing because they have all witnessed it at one time or another either in raid, pvp, or instances.

To me templars are the single most versatile healer in the game. I can't think of a group that does not benifit from having a well played templar in it. Of course other healers may add more to the groups but not one healer class out there that I can think of can play as many spots in a raid than a templar, we can solo heal DPS groups, heal the OT groups, and if we have to even primary heal the MT group with the help of another healer. I have fought Kultak with just me and a warden on the MT, cleared all of VP with out a shaman (solo most of the way on the MT), solo healed dps groups on byzola.

We are not pulling avatars yet ( a bit harder on a pvp server) and are just now working on Gynok and Penta.. so maybe on those mobs I haven't fought a templar isn't as versatile but to date what I have seen having a templar is win because we can do what needs to be done in any group.

I also do not think there is a "win" formula for playing one. If what you are doing works for you and your people are living than thats win, if someone else is doing it different and their people are living then thats a win. Thats just my opinion I though.

Perm

Maybe that's why you can't kill Xebnok.

Every second a DPS waits for a tank to get aggro is time they should be burning that shit down and get back on the name.

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Gahnand is a faggot.

Serias

Drag your current single target reactive from your spell book, put it on your hotbar somewhat close to your regular heals then put your highest parsing illy/locks name in the part where it says name, after you have done this during the course of the night between group reactive and group heal press that button. At the end of the night take a look at how many times it triggered.


Then come here and tell me it was a waste of time.




edit: Tried to get my point across in a more polite manner in the hopes you actually try this.

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Originally Posted by century242 Well for a guild you say does not compete and sucks as a whole, we must being doing something right to be ranked in the top 9 guilds on Everfrost

^^ These guys don't fuck around

Kriptini

Thank's for the tip, I'll let the raid leader know. While we're here, do you have any other tips?

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