Templar Debuffs

liviee · 05-10-2007, 02:50 PM

I usually get both my reactives up then I usually debuff right away. Now lately I've been the only templar on my raids for about 60%. But the other 40ish% we have another templar in the raid. I am assuming templar debuffs dont stack? If I am getting my debuffs up say 20 sec before the there templar is he overriding my debuffs? Or do my debuffs ride out and his pick up when mine expire?

Also keep in mine I have all 3 debuffs maxed out on my AA's... if my AA's are maxed and his arent will mine automatically stay up? Same with masters vs Adept III's?

Thanks for any help you can give me on this!

Arweena · 05-10-2007, 04:27 PM

The way I understand it, they don't stack effect wise. The icons will both show, but only the stronger one will be affecting the mob, when the stronger one wears off (assuming the weaker one is still on) the weaker one will take effect until it wears off or the stronger one is reapplied.

I would assume the best way to test it would be using buffs in group, because the icons stack, but the effects don't.

liviee · 05-10-2007, 04:31 PM

Do you think thats the same with AAs as Master vs Adept III?

Arweena · 05-10-2007, 04:35 PM

I would assume so, just not sure how to test it really.

Nyax · 05-10-2007, 05:19 PM

Templar Debuffs do "stack"

We really only have 1 that needs to follow stacking rules.

Mark of the celestial and involuntary restoration are seperate spells cast. Whenever the mob makes an attack each spell get a seperate chance to cast that spells effect. having 2 marks or 2 resorations up dosne't cancel the other one out.

as far as spurn, spurn only does like 1405?(aa improved? at work donno the exact number at work). The cap that a single spell can decrease mitigation is like 5k+ so you would have to have like 4 spurns on something before the cap is reached.

liviee · 05-10-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyax

Templar Debuffs do "stack"

We really only have 1 that needs to follow stacking rules.

Mark of the celestial and involuntary restoration are seperate spells cast. Whenever the mob makes an attack each spell get a seperate chance to cast that spells effect. having 2 marks or 2 resorations up dosne't cancel the other one out.

as far as spurn, spurn only does like 1405?(aa improved? at work donno the exact number at work). The cap that a single spell can decrease mitigation is like 5k+ so you would have to have like 4 spurns on something before the cap is reached.

So you are saying they all stack then with only 2 templars in the raid?

Nyax · 05-10-2007, 05:30 PM

Phrozen · 05-10-2007, 05:38 PM

Mark and Involuntary will have their own trigger chances per imparity cast on the mob, can't really comment on Spurn, wouldn't have thought it does though.

Ultor · 05-10-2007, 10:57 PM

with 2 templars in the raid, and 2 mark of the celestials cast on ONE mob, only the 1st mark of celestial allplied will heal, if the first one is reapplied the 2nd one takes over.

They both do not stack, only one will proc for the entire raid at one time on one mob

Nyax · 05-10-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultor

with 2 templars in the raid, and 2 mark of the celestials cast on ONE mob, only the 1st mark of celestial allplied will heal, if the first one is reapplied the 2nd one takes over.

They both do not stack, only one will proc for the entire raid at one time on one mob

But they both get seperate proc chances to trigger.