Istaril

Parses from the last raid (FTH).

Total amount healed by Supplicant's Prayer (190920)

23.2% criticals
Average Heal of a Non-Crit Supplicant Prayer = 503.0
Average Heal of a critical-hit Supplicant Prayer = 607.07
Average additional amount healed = 20.6%

Net amount of healing attributed to Critical Heal AA line =
0.156 * 362 * 503.0 * 0.206 = 5851.51
(Percentage of crits times total heals times extra heal from crit (which is 20.6% of 503)

% of total healing from Supplicant's prayer attributed to Critical Heal AA line =
5851.51 / 190920 = 3.06%


In summary, on a typical run through freethinkers, 8 points in heal crit, and at least 12 wasted to reach it, net me a total of 3.06% additional healing.

Istaril

Since I can't edit - some new information.

A repeat for a DT run chosen at random, an EH run chosen at random, and an MMIS run chosen at random yields numbers from 3-4% healing from Heal crit AA.

All preformed while in Main Tank group. 4% range = 2 healer MT group, 3% range = 3 healer (typically).

While in out of MT group those numbers will - because you have other healers supporting you, and less actual opportunity to exploit a crit to it's max (ie not have it "over-heal), and while in non-multi-healer groups, you're more likley to get the full crit heal value of the spell.

Nyax

Nice info. thanks.

can you explain what all your numbers are in the OP?

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Istaril

To simplify it without the numbers from the examples above

If 15.6% of my Heals are crits due to AA, and each crit is (on average) 18-27% more than a non crit, we have

1 (base heal) * 0.156 (chance of AA crit) * 0.18 (Average Bonus healed from critting) = 0.028 = 2.8%

or as high as

1 (base heal) * 0.156 (chance of AA crit) * 0.27 (Average Bonus Healed from critting) = 0.042 = 4.2%

Vizion

You can't judge it like that after parsing one run, have to do a few and get the average, I'm sure a majority of the time it is counting for a higher percentage, and why test it in FTH? Try a few avatar fight parses or fights with constant adds like Contested Mayong before you go as far as to say it is a waste

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Istaril

I did not say it was a waste. I said that 12 of the points I spend to get the ability to spend 8 pts were points "Wasted". 3-4% heal amount = Still not junk.

I'm not able to show healing amounts from Avatars or Contested Mayong - my guild hasn't killed those (or had much of a chance to attempt - pvp gets the better of us)

I've parsed four runs, as I stated in the second post - some random other runs (DT, MMIS, EH).

As for not being able to judge it based on so few runs, well - I'd have to say that I disagree. We're talking of a great many reactive procs going off, for each zone - that's a fairly decent sample size.

You're more than welcome to run a few calculations on your contested encounters - and calculated by someone else with slightly different raid/group setups and healing habits.

Ulric

This is an interesting thread to watch as a new and learning templar. I'm curious or "nosy"... you decide... and like to see how others spec, their gear, etc in an attempt to get some education.

I have been more surprised to see a few of the more advanced templars skip or not fill out the crit heal % AA, and wondered if they knew something others did not, or had progressed well enough in gear to not need to invest the points into it.

For the majority of templars, it's a given they take this line, but obviously some do okay without maxing it or using it at all.

(To me where I am at in gear I don't think I should because it's a new alt and needs all the help it can get.)

Nyax

hehe, that is the purpose of these forums.

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stevus

I'm not actually surprised.
Until a few weeks ago i had the usual max 15.6% in crit heals but had been thinking for a while it was not worth it so a did a respect to have just 4 pts in it - and didnt see any noticable difference whatsoever in my overall healing ability.
(thats as a very "casual" raider, mostly grouping etc).

Istaril

More information of interest (Because we need a larger sample size, and reactives are only a part of our healing):

Last Night's MMIS

Supplicant's Prayer crits attributed to Heal Crit AA Accounted for 4.1% of my heals (This is generous, as my actual crit rate was about 20% and not my typical 23+).

Mark of Nobility, which actually did 30% of my healing, crit 1114 times for an average of a 26.2% increase over a non-crit, resulting in 4.09% net healing gain from Mark Crits.