Charlotte

Something that has really annoyed me since launch of these 2 secondary professions was the fact that tinkering items are only usable by tinkerers. With RoK the items are no longer just fluff fun items, there are alot of usefull things tinkerers get to use.

As someone who grinded out a transmuter the first week it was introduced I find the trasmuting to be a waste (in the long run). It really only takes 1 person to be a transmuter and everyone can get the benefits for transmuting. But with tinkering, I dont even have the option to access the majority of the things that are made.

I dont believe it would hurt the game to allow people to be both transmtuers and tinkerers at the same time. Or at the very least allow ALL tinkered items to be usable by everybody.

Poofe

If everyone could use tinkered products, there'd be no reason to have more than 1 tinkerer - thus your transmuting argument.

Right now, tinkering is done for the personal benefits, transmuting is more about making money.

I'm a transmuter, but I like what I've seen from tinkerers. I guess you just have to make a choice.

I vote "NO" vehemently to opening up tinkerer items for everyone. You should have to work for the benefits.

__________________
Poofe Fromage the Fragrant - 80 troubadour

Mendanbar

Definitely not, they'll just water down the benefits of the items and make them pieces of crap, which would make the profession useless entirely. Now what I might be more in favor of is items that are only castable by the tinker but can benefit several people... like the repair bot, or the exothermic stones (though I don't think those are particularly useful - too little gain on the manastone to be worth a death for any class worth anything, at least compared to other mana gaining items).

Charlotte

Whats wrong with tinkering changing to make money? I dont see how the argument has to be one way only. People that want adorments should have to grind out trasmuting to make them. That wouldnt make any sense. So why is that the case with tinkering. And my point was not so much to make everything usable, it was to allow us to be both so you have the option to grind both professions and use them for personal benefit.


And if you are worried that they will water down the benefits of the items then we agree that they are overpowered.

Mendanbar

I don't think they're overpowered, most anything with the exception of the repairbot for tinkering has a large reuse timer to compensate for it's viability. Call of Tinkerer, 1 hour reuse, as compared to a CoH 2 minute reuse timer... that's not overpowered.

Compare the items that are craftable and directly tradeable, craftable but only consignable, and then tinkerer use only. There is a HUGE difference in quality there, and I don't want to see all tinkerer items dropped into the first category, that's all.

Slippery

So allow people to be both tinkerers and transmuters.

Kungao

stop whining and live with your choice, thats all

Mheryl

This game has obviously gotten too forgiving, everyone wants everything and they want it now!

When tinkering and transmuting came out they were "advertised" as skills that were secondary, HARD TO DO (boy has that changed), and that we would only be able to do one.

It's been a year, there's been plenty of time to see what you can do with either skill. If you wanna be able to use the tinker stuff, then be a tinker. It's simple. Mheryl is my main, she tinkers. She gets the benefit on raids, groups, etc. I have an alt transmuter for breaking down the stuff I get, and transmuting for friends and guild. The alt also makes adornments like the vampiric handle that no one else can make.

This game has always been about making choices until people started crying about it. They gave us options now to change our primary tradeskill and change our secondary tradeskill. If you want the tinker items, be a tinker.