Barak

Pre Rok i was always able to jesters myself and then right before jesters wore off i would cast blade and get the recast down to around 5 min. Now it seems no matter what i do the recast is 7 min. Any ideas if anything changed and how i can lower the recast on Blade to less than 7 min.

Also, Have been playing with countersong and realizing its usefulness for raid mobs with DD ae's and trying to play with jesters and find the right combo to lower It's recast timer as well.

Barak

Dants

It's because for a majority of EoF, the Jester's Cap AA enhancer was broken.

Instead of giving a flat 50% increase to reuse for 30 seconds, it used to work like this:

t=time remaining on JC buff

t=30, 50% reuse
t=25, 60% reuse
t=20, 70% reuse
t=15, 80% reuse
t=10, 90% reuse
t=5, 100% reuse

So if you used an ability when JC had 5 seconds or less remaining on it, you'd get a full 100% reuse (let's take Bladedance for example [10 min duration]: = 10 / (1 + 100/100) = 5 min.

Towards the end of EoF, they fixed it and it works like it's supposed to with a flat 50% increase to reuse throughout the entire duration of the buff.

Which would mean Bladedance with JC on would have a reuse of: 10 / (1 + 50/100) = 6 min 40 seconds.

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Barak

thanks for the response. so from what you are saying. we only can get it down to 6 min 40 secs recast? i guess the way the spell is worded is misleading. i was thinking it was 50% off recast timers. but that doesnt mean the same as reuse timer? let me see if i understand this.. Bladedance is 10 min recast. the spell last 30 secs. so thats a total of 10 min 30 secs reuse? and half of that would be 5 min 15 secs. what am i missing here. i saw your equation but not sure how you came to that. guess i need to reread it tonight and see exactly how the spell text is.

Barak

Poofe

wording is that it "improves recast" by 50%

equation dant posted is correct:

original recast / (1 + % improvement / 100%) = new recast

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Dants

A lot of the formulas of this game work using a diminishing curve system (DPS, Haste, Spell Reuse, Mitigation, Stats). So 100% isn't a true 100% like you would think in an everyday situation and it certainly isn't linear from 0% - 100% like in the real world.

The recast starts as soon as you're done casting the spell (since it isn't togglable). So if you wanted to see the amount of time you didn't have Bladedance up from when you casted it, you'd calculate the reuse from the formula above and then subtract the duration which is 30 seconds (6 mins 10 seconds).

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Barak

Thanks all for the info. So to summarize. Cast Jesters First then cast Bladedance ASAP to get the fastest possible recast of blade again. I am assuming this works the same for countersong as well correct?

Barak

Dants

No, casting bladedance at any point that you have Jester's up will net the same reuse time for the spell. The only difference is the shift in time since in one case you wait and the other case you didn't - because obviously if you cast a spell sooner, it'll be up sooner.

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Uyaem

After the daze '08 action, I think the next motion should be "fix retarded spell descriptions"... :/

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Paikis

/agree

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Meta

Not using BD here tbh.. but using Countersong on wing beat etc. I was skeptical about it's usefulness with the re-use, but 2 troub's co-ordinating jc'd countersongs can take a lot of the venom out of the big DD AoE's over the course of a long fight.

BD is fucking pointless.