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Old 05-09-2008, 09:12 AM  
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It stuns and procs but does no real damage. In the time it takes to put that debuff on I could have proc'ed twice using CA.
what? you can proc potm from CAs?
no, no you can't. bellow counts as a spell and it's INSTANT cast. how can you cast two CA's in less time that it takes to use an instant cast ability?

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those really exquisite moments when everything is going at once but wait, there's a button you can still push.
i've never experienced this phenomenon.
furthermore, unless you're rolling with a twelve tone earstone and/or crimson ascot of the pirate, you are backing out of melee autoattack range to use your bow combat art. not worth it, in my opinion.
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what? you can proc potm from CAs?
no, no you can't. bellow counts as a spell and it's INSTANT cast. how can you cast two CA's in less time that it takes to use an instant cast ability?.

I still do not think Bellow is worth it. When I took it out of my main line up my DPS went up so I kind of have a hard time believing its value at this time. I apologize if I have messed up the quoting, I'm still learning this portion as well. I definitely take your word that my ca's do not proc the potm. I have no problem saying I've yet to really have a chance to explore the full potential of potm.


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i've never experienced this phenomenon.
furthermore, unless you're rolling with a twelve tone earstone and/or crimson ascot of the pirate, you are backing out of melee autoattack range to use your bow combat art. not worth it, in my opinion.

You haven't found a time when you have all your items cast at once? It's happened to me on several occasions and I am definitely in range to do both. I'm afraid I have yet to have those items you mentioned. I do not have an answer as to why you have not been able to do this. Have you tried to see if you can do this?

Thank you for your advice on the bellow portion though I do appreciate any information that gets my DPS higher.
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Melee AA range is 2m, min range on Bow CAs is 2m. Hard to be in range to do both, yes. But possible.
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Yeah, where were the Twelve-Tone Earstone and the Crimson Ascot back in days of the Diranger and Rangador?
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You haven't found a time when you have all your items cast at once? It's happened to me on several occasions and I am definitely in range to do both. I'm afraid I have yet to have those items you mentioned. I do not have an answer as to why you have not been able to do this. Have you tried to see if you can do this?
there are very few times that i have nothing to cast, and when i do there's something that will be up before my bow CA would have gotten fired... so taking the time to find range for it and cast it would actually delay my next cast, which ends up reducing my dps instead of helping it.
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there are very few times that i have nothing to cast, and when i do there's something that will be up before my bow CA would have gotten fired... so taking the time to find range for it and cast it would actually delay my next cast, which ends up reducing my dps instead of helping it.
I have to disagree here. You can position while throwing out a green debuff. I would say that is the purpose of your focus. Thus, you can find the sweet spot without any loss of dps. Other then that, yes, I would not bother positioning when casting a CA itself.
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well you must have a perfect step to move back to exactly 2m so you can fire your ranged CA and still be in melee autoattack range. i'm not saying it takes too much time, i just know that there will be another spell or CA ready before the time it would take for me to make the adjustment. it complicates my casting unnecessarily and potentially fucks with my autoattack.
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I have been running the same spec as Ballads, I guess it just makes the most sense. For awhile I ran a bladedance spec which I know is retarded in t3+ but in the lower tiers I ran a bladedance spec with all of the combat abilitys and spammed those and I didnt notice a huge difference in dps, however my groups did not have fortissimo but bladedance instead.
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well you must have a perfect step to move back to exactly 2m so you can fire your ranged CA and still be in melee autoattack range. i'm not saying it takes too much time, i just know that there will be another spell or CA ready before the time it would take for me to make the adjustment. it complicates my casting unnecessarily and potentially fucks with my autoattack.
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Women are always better at multitasking then men.
tall claims. anyway, i wouldn't really call stepping back "multitasking". playing while watching tv and carrying on a conversation would be multitasking.
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