Gabrianna

I've been browsing the web looking for troub casting orders to improve my dps. I'm already timing auto attacks which has dramatically improved my dps to about 1200 in raids (not bad for a 78 troub with basically master crafted). I'd like to get your opinions, if I could, on the following suggestion that I found.

1. Night Strike (lowering Int to reduce spell damage)
2. Depressing Chant (killing their mental resist, get this Mastered as soon as you can afford it)
3. Bright Blade (magic resist debuff)
4. Spell Rebuff (more magic debuff)
5. Draining Incursion
6. Lucky Break (HO starter)
6. Vexing Verses (HO opener and dropping their defense)
7. Reverberating Shrill (HO ender)
8. Chaos Anthem (if the fight will be long enough or I really need the Wis debuff)
9. Devigorating Descant and Dispirited Processional if and only if the fight will be long
10. Ceremonial Blade
11. Thunderous Overture
12. Tap Essence (if nothing better has refreshed or for some reason I'm running low on power)

rukkis

I'm a dirge and I don't have any idea about troub attacks, but one thing I could recommend is just macroing your HO starter with all or at least a couple of your HO openers. Since it is instant cast it will go off before you start to cast the opener. It will skip the HO starter if you que the macro before your previous spell is done so you wont loose anything. And you will miss it by a split second enough to keep the buff up and then some.

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Kild

I'm going to assume we're talking about trash mobs. On named fights (difficult ones) you're going to open with all debuffs.

For Trash here's what I do from memory.
1. PotM before mob is in range (jcap yourself when potm is about to expire)
2. Ranged bow attack on inc (unless tank is body pulling or sucks).
3. Snare as soon as mob is in range of it (HO starter macro'd to it)
4. Reverberating shrill (only to finish HO, hit vexing verses or evade to flip the HO if it isnt Swindlers Luck, or Bravado's Dance. they're the only HO's worth doing)
5. Rhythm Blade (increase attack skills)
6. Thunderous Overture (our highest dps attack, keep this down at all times)
7. Bump + Night Strike (hopefully you have 12-tone earring)
8. Bright Blade
9. Spam #4-8 as they refresh with priority on Thunderous Overture. Also keeping snare up at all times. Mix in Draining Incursion and Chaos Anthem any time all your CA's are down.

I dont debuff trash unless we have adds or its a pickup raid and the tank is getting waxxed. Rarely use Tap essence unless its a named fight. I never have power issues. I have about 50% raid/VP gear and zonewide VP trash over 4kdps doing this (obviously will be alot higher with TSO AA's and change to 4sec weaps).

Gabrianna

Thanks, that's a big help.

Can you tell me how you set up that HO macro? Thanks

Kild

Create a macro and drag Lucky break and Snare into it. Click checkbox "Primary" beside lucky break.

Gosta Dirk

This is pretty much how I do it:

Prepull:
PotM
Jcap on self
-Activate Ranged autoattack.

When mobs gets in range:
Spell Rebuff
Chaos Anthem
-Deactivate Ranges autoattack and activate Melee autoattack
-Start up a HO
Depressing Chant
Reverberating Shrill
Rythm blade
Piercing stab (Racial skill that decreases the physical mitigation)
Bump macro
-Start HO
Vexing Verses
Ceremonial Blade
Tap Essence
Sinister Strike (If I have it)
Bright Blade
Draining Incursion


I could prolly change something here, but I have memorized this, and I do somewhere arround 4k on VP trash, so I will prolly not change much just yet..

First, I have to releard to time autoattacks with 4.0 delay
Maybe after that I will take a look at how I can change something and get even more dps out.

Rigo

if i were you i would use the snare before anything...unresistible debuff ftw

Destined

I first send a tell to my fury / illusionist begging them for buffs (feral&arm/tandem), potm/jcap myself. Then I attack as the tank runs up to the mob then I dont jcap anyone the rest of the fight 6k+ easy

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Ghazni

Two big things to remember:

- Rhythm Blade needs to be one of the first things you do.

- Depressing Chant and Bright Blade need to be cast before any spells.

Don't waste time or power casting Chaos Anthem. It's worthless. Spell Rebuff is alright on raid mobs maybe...otherwise it takes too long to cast and gets resisted too much...plus bright blade and snare will bring mental resist down a ton already.