Oyce

Starting a thread to list items that are now nerfed in the hope we'll find items that are no longer "useful" or becoming marginal.

I was rather annoyed last night logging in to find a large patch waiting. Then I read the update notes and went mmm.

So, figured I'd kill a few training dummies to see what changed.

I ran several 4 dummy sets while swaping one item of gear every 4 dummies.

Essentially a 10-15% DPS nerf from the ~20 dummies I killed, all of that nerf was from other than melee damage (duh). All proc items were hitting for much less than typical (expected). Nothing like going from 33-36 sec dummy kills w/o potm, jc, or temps, to 38-42 sec. Very depressing. May not seem like a huge change but that translates into 500-1k difference in DPS.

Concentrating on more Melee stats vs wearing proc items lowered DPS. So we're still reliant on procs for added DPS, thats not changed, only the amount of DPS from the proc items. Best DPS was still obtained by using my typical gear albeit lower than norm.

Looks like they added "Cannot be modified except by direct means" tag to just about everything that procs. After seeing this I'm waiting to see how the procs are affected by our set bonus + potm. My assumption is they will still proc more but do less damage since they're unable to crit.

With last night and tonight being off nights I wont be able to see how items are performing during raids. I'm hoping someone that raided last night can post their findings.

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Ogelia

well we killing yesterday instanced anashti and was here big diff about before GU, more pwr problems lower dps ...

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Gulpen

My personal opinion of course.

Greater Void Bane is basically useless now. Scratch Void Brute Shackles and Glowing Void Pearl off the list. Dire Consequences appears to be at the point where the dps gain is not worth the agro instability, so I'm swapping signet out for Spiked Ravager Band. Sash of Pain is going off full time it looks like for the Belt of the Noble Warrior. It's even hard to justify using the Bloodthirsty Choker at this point. This nerf is unbelievable. They really have succeeded in making the game less fun than it was a day ago.

Salarionn

You are the Gulpen !!! FROG OF FROGS !!!! You will over come it all sir!!!!

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Oyce

I'm starting to kick myself for passing on Jewel of Many Colors twice. I'll definately need something better to swap out for the Signet, I was wondering what this LU would do to it.

I don't have access to that belt, I'll see what ole trusty Naga Flesh does tonight on some dummies. The proc from it wasn't that much DPS for me before LU52 so we'll see.

I agree, this "update" has made the game less fun but I'll reserve judgement till I get a few raids in under LU52.

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Werdar

This is one of the few times I'm thrilled I'm just now starting to raid and haven't acquired much "good" shit. I have nothing to compare the good ole days too.

nooga

the increased trigger chance from the BP/5-set bonus still work correctly on item procs at least

Yasiko

The Incandescent Blade, which formerly had one of the heftier procs acquirable (in lengthy fights, such as raid trash, of course) is pretty much garbage now. Definitely not worth losing bonuses present on various other as easily acquired weapons any more, for the larger proc it once had. Seems to be down to about 70-90 DPS zonewide, where it was previously pushing 150-250 DPS.

Greater void bane, as mentioned above, is completely demolished. Wouldnt consider the shackles in any zone except POTAO - I havent tested them there, to see if theyre still worth it.

Wearing 3 pieces of greater undead bane in VP recently added about 90 DPS zonewide (trash mobs.)

It almost seems as most procs are down below 100 DPS or so, the mythical proc being no exception, from personal experience. Big hit, to bard DPS.

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Oyce

Did my 1st raid night since LU and I'm a sad panda atm.

Incandescent Blade was dropped after looking at its proc (68DPS) from ToMC earlier in the evening and switched to the one with Razor burn for palace....sorry name escapes me atm.

Overall proc items ranged 60-160 on trash but ZW none except for AA procs broke 100. Pretty bad when our "poison" AA proc topped the proc ZW for both zones. >.<

Going to have to rethink gear a bit I'm afraid. Problem is, with whats available from the TSO raid loot tables I can't see what will actually make up for the that much DPS loss.

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N.O.S.

Prety much got rid of Greater undead/vampire/void.Only getting 1% on fight's.Any kind of damage proc.Seem's like junk.