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Old 05-28-2007, 05:39 PM  
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Default Re: Design the troub epic!

Hi if you dont play this game and are here just to troll you will be edited because i can. Now if you read the whole thread and contributed something i would never edit it.

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:50 PM  
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Caster Epics were pretty easy...I copied GrizzFazzle's Walking Stick 6 times (Don't worry, I added some Flowing Thought) and then added 6 differing particles...done!


My general focus at the moment is Epic Weapon designs, so I've been spending some time trolling the class forums looking at suggestions (They seem to have a higher signal-to-noise ratio, so I won't bother asking anyone to reply in this thread). If the class mods want to sticky a thread in each section, it would make my life a lot easier...thanks!

And if your class doesn't already have a thread...stop slacking...
So get to work you bastards. We need more ideas, more good stuff, and more unique effects. I'll throw my ideas up soon.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:00 PM  
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See....this is the problem with Calbiyum....he is such a forum troll that he cannot possibly keep an eye on all the spam/useless crap he posts. Timely reply there friend....Ballads posts on 28 May....you finally add to your post count on 7 July. Grats.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:09 AM  
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I'd like to see it proc a group wide version of JC or a non-rooting potm (or maybe both?)

Basically, i think the weapon should be about augmenting the abilities of the class (this goes for all epic weapons.)
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:36 AM  
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I hate the idea of getting the root and daze removed from precision from an epic weapon. It should just be removed anyways. What happens for those troubs who cant raid all the time and get this weapon? They get stuck with the weaksauce version of PotM we have currently. Instead of making us use a weapon to get rid of penalties that shouldn't be there anyways, how about they jsut remove those stupid penalties, and put a focus on our epic to reduce the recast, or perhaps increase the duration, so it can atleast get CLOSE to the effectiveness of CoB. Perhaps something like:

While equiped: Enhance: Precision of the Maestro
Adds 15% spell casting haste to Precision of the Maestro.

As it stands, its the summoners and enchanters that get the most out of PotM, solely because they cast more spells in less time, it's not about who's spell hits the hardest, it's about who's casting the most spells. CoB adds haste so melee can hit more often, why doesn't PotM give spell haste?

Now that my little PotM whine is over, I'd like to say good job to the people who threw those together. /kudos

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erm read what i posted again. Thought it was pretty clear that I meant a short term precision PROC without the root/daze.

Not changing the existing one (which i agree, wouldnt be a bad idea.)

so like, 1.8 times per minute it procs a 10-15 second potm-esque buff which doesn't root/daze us.

Same with the jesters idea, a shorter duration JC that affects the entire group.

Or really, just combine the two effects into some psuedo-bard sounding ability so they dont have to fuss with existing spells (Lyracist's Boon or something as cliche) throw in an alins type effect if the dev's are feeling generous (as they should, regarding troubs)

This is just my opinion, but i really think the epics should be related to what a class does. (Granted, this might make the shadowknight epic tricky ... a house item perhaps? some kind of bench..)

At any rate, It takes absolutely no imagination to design a weapon with a killer ratio and great stats. I'll be supremely disappointed if our epic is the same as the other scouts - swapping int for agility as needed.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:21 AM  
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My appologies. I thought you meant to remove the root/daze on our original PotM by having the weapon equiped. Doing that would just piss me the hell off.
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I'll take stab at it.


Singing Blade of Vhalen
FABLED
LORE NO-TRADE
43 str 26 sta 57 int
248 health 277 power
+15 piercing +15 disruption

Serenade of Remorse
Maestro's Aura
Rhythm of Pain

Dagger
One-Handed Piercing
Damage 52 - 521 (99.6 Rating)
Delay 3.5 seconds
Weight 3.0
Level 80

Troubador
Effects:
  • When Equipped, applies Serenade of Remorse:
    7% chance on a successful attack to lower group members (AE)hate by 1 position and decrease threat by 1500.
    If non-fighter
  • When Equipped:
    When target casts a Hostile spell this has a chance to cast Maestro's Aura on group (AE). This effect will trigger an average of 2.0 times per minute last 10 seconds.
    The next spell cast will have a casting time of 0.
  • When equipped: On a successful attack has a chance to cast Rhythm of Pain on group. This effect will trigger 1.8 times a minute. last 15 seconds
    On a successful attack will cast ballads revenge on caster's target.
    Inflicts 400-566 mental damage on target . Grats a total of 5 triggers across all targets

I started by quoting lew and just made it my own.Damage and damage rating probably will need adjusting.I tired to focus on what we were already good at and enhance that. Thanks for all the help in guk.troubador this morning refining the effects.With Maestro's Aura i was looking for something to help soloer but not be overpowered or useless in group or raid. I hope you like mine and i cant wait to see some more of your ideas. Again you all were just on it troub channel this morning. Keep that good shit coming.

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Old 07-08-2007, 03:39 PM  
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soe just gonna give bards dual wield pom-poms anyway.....
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I'll just use Ballad's template because as long as the weapon is one-handed (new dw) and piercing and has a 3.5+ delay, that's fine by me.

Singing Blade of Vhalen
FABLED
LORE NO-TRADE
43 str 26 sta 57 int
248 health 277 power
+15 piercing +15 disruption

Jester's Melody
Maestro's Aura

Dagger
One-Handed Piercing
Damage 52 - 521 (99.6 Rating)
Delay 3.5 seconds
Weight 3.0
Level 80

Troubador
Effects:
  • When Equipped, applies Jester's Melody:
    On a successful attack this spell will cast Jester's Song on group (AE). This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. Improves Spell Reuse timer by 50% for 10 seconds.
  • When Equipped, applies Maestro's Aura:
    When target casts a Hostile spell this has a chance to cast Maestro's Song on group (AE). This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute last 6 seconds.
    Increases casting speed by of target by 50%. On every successful hostile spell, inflicts 450-650 mental damage on target.

I like Rogoshen's ideas about the short duration JC for the group and the spell haste for PoTM. I think the main procs of these weapons should be what troubadors are known for, which in my opinoin is PoTM and JC, so it would make sense to either improve upon these abilities or incorporate them as procs which affect the group.

The basis behind my proc ideas are that the first one is melee triggered which will be useful on fights like single target mobs where we mostly melee. The second proc is a spell based proc which applies a mini PoTM. The idea behind this is that you'd cast PoTM on multiple mobs and while chaining off spells, you'll proc this mini PoTM which would give your group 2 PoTM's at the same time going for a small duration with a casting speed increase. This incorporates our dual playing style giving us a melee triggered buff and a spell triggered buff.

I like Ballad's idea also with the next spell cast has a casting time of 0 for the group. That's a tight effect for a troubador weapon

Overall I think we gave the devs some good ideas to work with!
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