Hama

Elaborate person I have never heard of.

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Luthienne

Mephiston cybers many, often 5 at a time. He is like the wind...everywhere. His cyber is legendary and transcends words or sound. However, I did manage to wipe a few raids he was in...now whether it was just me or he had the rest of the hos in chat as well, I cannot say for sure.

When he went to go to NPU, myself and the rest of the hos were devestated - we were a harem without a master and were left to lesbian cyber amongst ourselves...dark times indeed.

But now he is in Elysium and the cyber has resumed. All is right in the world.

I'm also sorry to hear 5R broke up. There were some very nice people there.

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Originally posted by Mephiston re: the application process to get into Mephiston's School for Hot Cyberz:"oh hunny your in it, and responsible for more vendetta deaths than any mob :p"

storrmm

hama, boldac was hubby of surriel (illy).

people can say whatever they want about 5R and felan/nioxin but the guild was a raid guild and if certain people dont show up, make lame ass excuses, or dont level, etc its gonna have problems. so boldac even though ya hated things dont go throwing stones when it takes months to lvl to 80 and be in no position to help the situation we were in. now your problem w/ leadership is your opinion and w/ many that have left they prob share some of those thoughts too.

anyone ever look at the 5R roster, compared to reve at peak times in EoF? we always dealt w/ a small roster. that was decision of many in the guild as i remember it. so when anyone starts missing or cant pull their weight a small guild will have problems (especially if they arent #1 guild). so again i say when you chime in on any person here you open yourself up to your own faults. if your gonna be in a raid guild that states they are looking to be one of the best (wether they become one or not), then do your JOB or go somewhere else.

storrmm

ty, hal. even though i am takeing time off from game a bit, 5R is not dead yet. think embries or val said one time, 5R is like a cock roach, so dont count them out till the king coack roach has left the building (sorry to call ya a king cock roach felan, lol).

oddyophile

That was me. I think I called them a cyborg-ninja cockroach.

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storrmm

fuck it, boldac got me brewing a bit.

at the start of RoK we had a bunch of whiny babies. i cant level, no wants to group w/ me, is all we heard. this was not all of 5r but a decent % to fuck up raiding. we also had couples in the guild that lvled together and got picked on cause they didnt group w/ others. NO ONE GOT THAT RoK is a FUCKING SOLO GRIND. till this day i see people asking for groups at lvl 70ish all the time. WTF???? sorry for our members who could not get that. we listed exactly how to lvl your toon in forums by doing it solo and how. FFS i levled a pally, brig, and illy/coercer (all solo) to 80 before someone got his ranger to 80. a ranger, fucking dps class, i guess in some peoples hands.

anyways boldac i dont think any could have inspired ya to do what we needed. if it wasnt for your wife, you would have been /booted. so blame felan/nioxin and any other leader/officer in 5R, all ya want but you didnt help 5R in anyway but a body to the raid and a waste of some good heals.

Hama

Ah yes, now i remember him, he was the guy that Felan let use his defiler since he was so fucking slow leveling and threw a hissy fit when no one would go back and help him in quests during the "grind" him and his fucking woman.

For one you should be appreciative that felan let you use his defiler in the first place, then once you had him we found out how much you sucked big donkey balls so felan has to go back to felan for a bit. And you come on the forums after all this time to bash 5r's leadership when in fact it wasn't the leadership's fault at all. T

hough I always said we should have done recruiting a bit better instead of bringing in anybody. Just because there a dirge or an illusionist etc or a fucking defiler just because we needed one for the MT group right when RoK came out. God i don't know how many dirges we brought in while I was there that didn't have a clue what to do but just push CoB and swing.

As far as I am concerned the leadership was great, the grind to 80 overall was good on our end. Most got there very fast. The problem was a few (meaning 6-7) and there ability to actually play the game lol. It was always a problem we had from contested in KoS to avatars in EoF, and till this day still is I'm sure.

Sure we had good players and some the best of there class on the server and very talented but a few after so many years still didn't know what the fuck they were doing and really didn't understand there class. I can't sit there with you and help you play your class, I could try and teach and help out best I could but could not physically come and sit down next to you and play. I'm done for now, on you go.

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valnas

lies ! thou shall not steal my brief quotable eq2flames moments !!

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Fuck Your Couch

Boldac

Don't make me laugh...

It's ironic don't you think, the sole purpose I created the defiler is because I was told that one was needed. By who?...your leader. So, I did just that, made a defiler, and within a month had it to damn near 60. Now, it doesn't stop there, because when the toon was created I was promised help in leveling by your beloved leadership, and what did I get? Absolutely nothing but grief. Two weeks into the grind I started getting pushed about why I wasn't 70 yet. Still, no help from anyone with the exception of my wife and a couple others. Ironically, no help from the leadership who had promised it. As soon as RoK hit, I was approached to run Felan until I was able to get my own defiler to raid level. Here's where it get's funny. I banged the toon up to 74 and started raiding. At level 74 with T7 spells and gear I was out parsing every other fucking healer there. Oh yeah, they were all 80. So, after getting the toon to 75, I start getting the "your not leveling fast enough" whining from the leadership and your fearless leader went back to playing the toon. And you know what?...He got 2 levels and shelved it in favor of his bruiser. Luckily, we were able to pick up a fairly good defiler shortly thereafter. So I went to playing a ranger because I couldn't in good concience play a toon that would be heavily relied on with my work schedule at the time. Oh, and I made sure to clear that through the officers first too. So when real life got in the way of raiding more often then not, my wife and I made the decision that it would be best to leave the guild. I bit my tongue then, only because I was trying to be nice.

When I heard what had happened, I can't say I was shocked. You take the 2nd raid guild on the server and run them into the ground in just over 4 months? Who's to blame there? SOE? possibly...Guild leadership? Absofuckinglutely. When problems are ignored, people are chastised for doing there job, and guild resources are allowed to be wasted on personal whims....that's a problem. The loss of over 6 folks in rapid succession is not the fault of a single member, although your leader would like to try and play it that way. Each person that left had their own reasons. Be it 3 months of foolishly banging your head against the same mob with no progress, or getting tired of empty promises, or watching the same people get away with murder while the innocent get punished.

So play it however you want Stormm. There's a reason why people left.....and I'll be the first to tell you it wasn't solely because of any regular members.

And one more thing....leave my wife out of it.....this is my opinion, and mine alone.

storrmm

nah the biggest thing that hurt us was a good number of 5r were damm good players and knew their classes, but some were not. you can get by in raiding like that until ya hit the twins, overking, and venril. cause then it takes focus for all to get the job done, especially venril. it can be as little as 1 person to fuck ya on those raids. it takes people going out on their own and makeing thier toons better by doing instances, makeing plat to buy adornments, spells, etc, etc. when 100% of the guild wont do that then ya have problems.

if we were clearing zones then 1/2 the shit you said wouldnt have mattered to anyone.

so all take a blame in this in some way. hell 1/2 the guild had less than 80% (with 32 members or less) attendance and some key classes always had to pick the right nite to fuck up a zone for us.

if your name was granticus, blayde, shensin, people who actually did all they could for the guild then i sit here and id shut up, but when someone who had shit attendance and cried about leveling every day and yes it was in the forums even i cant sit here and not say something.

as for your wife, i didnt say anything about her. in fact ill praise her for working her butt off trying to level the toons you were supposed to raid on. hell she was slow in leveling her own, cause she was worried about you and if it wasnt for her, you wouldnt have had the chance to leave the guild on your own.

this whole topic is stupid cause you were nobody in 5r and yet you have all the answers to why we failed.

and about a rapid 6 leaving, nah, it was quality people leaving over time, everytime ya hit a bump, there is that chance for someone to leave and then when they do the next bump hits harder and so on. we all pay money to play and we want what we pay for. so if your a quality player then eventually your time comes when the bump pushes ya out the door. again all bumps are fixed if you are clearing zones and/or not bored.

so next time ya wanna call a guild out ya had no part in for months, show up, do your job, help instead of cry, and just fucking kick ass.