Ajjantis

I am moving our topic from official eq2 forums to eq2flames as its getting dirty now and i dont want sony to remove the thread while its hot.
Disclamer: This is between me and demron. Shade get the fuck out of here and dont even bother posting or replying, noone gives a fuck.

To sum it up:
Demron was all mighty on the official eq2 forums. Telling everyone how overedpowered all other classes except his own class is. He is trying to tell us that brigands snares AND roots CANNOT be resisted and are NOT cureable. So i decided to give this fag another smackdown, as i love picking easy targets. These are our posts between him and me.

Demron wrote:
No Brigands just have an ability that roots you (uncurable) allowing them to get their back attacks off for 6 seconds on top of having walk the plank. I think this should go to, nerf it.

I answer:
Not true, get your facts straight.


I post again, since i know Demron would fall for it again:
Someone enlighten me which of my brigands snare are unresistable or hard to resist? I have 2 snares and both of them gets resisted MASSIVELY. Even by greens.

and:
If you guys want to change something in this game, do us all a favour and get the frigging facts straight. It is UNBELIEVABLE how many wrong informations we have here. You guys talking about unresistable and uncureable abilities that Swashy and Brigs seem to have. If i was a developer and would see how many people here do not even have the slightest idea about certain classes, i'd just ignore them. No wonder sony stopped listening to us, stop the garbage allready.

Demron finally answers again:
Darkor, show me a fraps or a log of "clock" being cured, and I'll give you 10 plat. And I'm sure you have a screenshot, or fraps of "Clock" getting resisted.



It is an uncurable root, which allows a smart Brigand to get off ALL of their back attacks in PvP, and you can use "Walk the Plank" while you're waiting for "Clock" to refresh. And you also have FETTERING POISON which is an uncurable snare.
Message edited by Sightless on 04/05/2008 15:00:33.

Now it finally gets interesting, i got him AGAIN. I post logs of Restrain ( the lower level version of clock being cured ). PS: I LOVE the part where he is trying to tell us that we can chain root someone using clock and walk the plan. He is simply ignoring the root immunity that you get after Clock/restrain. I answer:

Restrain = lower lvl version of Clock. It was my M2 choice so its as good as the adept 3 Clock. I wont replace it untill i get the master I.

(1206900422)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:02 2008] Summerbreeze's Thorns critically hits Bloo for 41 piercing damage.
(1206900422)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:02 2008] Bloo takes reprisal damage!
(1206900423)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:03 2008] YOU try to confound Yunem with Entangle, but Yunem resists.
(1206900423)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:03 2008] Compromising Thrust has been removed from Yunem.
(1206900423)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:03 2008] Restrain has been removed from Yunem.
(1206900423)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:03 2008] You cannot see your target.
(1206900423)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:03 2008] Your target is too far away! Move closer!
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Your target is too far away! Move closer!
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Your target is too far away! Move closer!
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Your target is too far away! Move closer!
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Bloo critically hits Summerbreeze for 64 crushing damage.
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Bloo's Bolt of Power critically hits Summerbreeze for 126 divine damage.
(1206900424)[Sun Mar 30 20:07:04 2008] Summerbreeze's Thorns hits Bloo for 38 piercing damage.

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(1206903036)[Sun Mar 30 2036 2008] YOUR Dispatched critically hits Jibba for 691 piercing damage.
(1206903037)[Sun Mar 30 2037 2008] YOUR Enfeeblement critically hits Jibba for 880 piercing damage.
(1206903037)[Sun Mar 30 2037 2008] Jibba's Heroic Dash critically hits YOU for 127 divine damage.
(1206903037)[Sun Mar 30 2037 2008] You are stunned!
(1206903037)[Sun Mar 30 2037 2008] You are struck by a blinding bash.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] You are no longer stunned.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Jibba's Castigate hits YOU for 658 divine damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Enfeeblement has been removed from Jibba.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] gracelessness has been removed from Jibba.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Restrain has been removed from Jibba.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Jibba's Castigate critically hits YOU for 552 divine damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Jibba's Castigate hits YOU for 360 divine damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Jibba's Castigate critically hits YOU for 493 divine damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] YOUR Blood Rake hits Jibba for 722 piercing damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Your vitality breach afflicts Jibba!
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] YOUR vitality breach hits Jibba for 243 poison damage.
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] Your vitality breach afflicts Darkor!
(1206903039)[Sun Mar 30 2039 2008] YOUR vitality breach heals YOU for 234 hit points.
(1206903040)[Sun Mar 30 2040 2008] Jibba hits YOU for 289 slashing damage.
(1206903040)[Sun Mar 30 2040 2008] YOUR Averted Eyes critically hits Jibba for 69 divine damage.
(1206903040)[Sun Mar 30 2040 2008] Jibba's Glorious Strike critically hits YOU for 768 divine damage.
(1206903040)[Sun Mar 30 2040 2008] You are immune to Stun effects.

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(1206991936)[Mon Mar 31 2116 2008] Thorny was interrupted!
(1206991936)[Mon Mar 31 2116 2008] Hidan's Quick Shot hits Thorny for 203 crushing damage.
(1206991936)[Mon Mar 31 2116 2008] Viting breaks free of the illusion.
(1206991936)[Mon Mar 31 2116 2008] Viting draws upon the verdancy of nature.
(1206991936)[Mon Mar 31 2116 2008] Your target is too far away! Move closer!
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Remiss has been removed from Abaria.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Restrain has been removed from Abaria.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Thorny was interrupted!
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Zwoehnix tries to confound Gothix with Bellow, but Gothix resists.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Abaria critically hits Darkhain for 382 piercing damage.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Darkhain converts the force of the blow into pure mana, dispersing it among the group!
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Abaria hits Darkhain but fail to inflict any damage.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Abaria's vitality breach heals Abaria for 187 hit points.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Abaria critically hits Darkhain for 581 piercing damage.
(1206991937)[Mon Mar 31 2117 2008] Viting's Faerie Ally's Faerie Aid heals Viting's Faerie Ally for 212 hit points.
(120699193[Mon Mar 31 2118 2008] The emerald-like glow fades from Loona.

I guess you own me 10plat now. We can meet tomorrow somewhere in qeynos and i am serious.
And by the way it cannot be resisted. Its a combat art so it can only "MISS". And for the last time, get your facts STRAIGHT. Clock gives you a 12 second root immunity, you cant use clock and then walk the plank.
Can i have another 10 plat now because everything you said was 100 % wrong.

Thats what i mean when people talk and argue all day on the forum here but have no frigging idea how stuff works. Ofcourse you wont have any dev's listening to us.

Hell, i even add a screenshot:



Now he is trying to get out of the whole argumention. Hes being really stupid trying to tell me Restrain is not the same as Clock. What a fag. Demron posts:

I said clock.. When I try to remove it with a potion, it will not be removed by any Cure Potion. And in each one of those screenshots it looks like Sanctuary is the culprit. I wonder if Sanctuary will remove Fettering Poison.. I'll have to test this. I bet the Wardens BIG cure does to.

I answer:

Restrain is CLOCK. Its just the T7 version. And everything can cure it, you owe me 10 plat.

But i want these easy gained 10 plat, so i pick up a brigand and play my GFs wizard who has no special cures like a templar or warden has. I post this:



As you see i edited out what potion i used. That has a good reason, because i knew Demron would try to tell us that freedom of action potions are NOT cure potions. Even tho it cures over 97 level of hostile root effects. So he posts this:

I don't see any CURE potions on the hotbars of that Wizard.
While fighting a Brigand, I'm not going to use Freedom of Action, I'm going to use Freedom of Mind for the stun's, so we're talking about Cure potions here, not potions that make you immune to effects.

What he doesnt know by now, he is totally getting owned as i never used a freedom of action potion. Restrain is a trauma based combat art and can be easily cured by any priests, by freedom of action potions or the cure trauma potions. Even the handcrafted potions will do LOL. So here i post this screenshot without me editing out what potion i used:



Ok, we went down from brigand snares and roots are not resistable and not cureable to they are cureable by special cure abilities like sanctuary or tranquility to they are cureable by freedom of action potions and now they are cureable by a simple handcrafted anti trauma potion. So i ask you Demron:

Where are my 10 plats?!?!?!

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tynkir

um, demron i guess said this, sanctuary doesnt cure anything, it grants immunities to the effects of a lot of spells but it doesn't remove anything, all the effects remain on you even if youre immune.

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Demron

You have to forgive Darkor, he's German and doesn't understand english.

Dictionary.com

He doesn't understand the difference between "cures", "immunities" and doesn't know what the word suppress means and how it relates to some abilities, and potions.

When I speak of cures, I'm talking about cure noxious, cure elemental, cure arcane, and cure trauma potions. I've explained this to Darkor more than a dozen times now, but he doesn't understand english, so I forgive him.

But I'm sick of repeating myself.

Demron

Oh, and Darkor while you think winning in a game, or an argument means you win at life, while you wasted two days on this bullshit, I on the other hand..

• Had dinner and a movie (10,000BC) with my wife, and we had sex before I went to sleep for work.
• Went to work, come home, played a game of basketball with a friend, and went to dinner with my wife and friends.
• Finished five writs in between all of this, and work.

You on the other hand have been sitting your fat ass in front of a computer trying to win at life by proving people wrong, and trying to win at an unwinnable video game.

Keep spending all this time with stupid ass shit.

Grats, you lose at life.

Ajjantis

I dont care what you did. I showed you how the UNCUREABLE got cured, by a handcrafted cure trauma potion. I want my 10 plat that you OFFERED if i showed you how to cure it.

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xunen

Will you stop talking if I would pay you the 10 PP?

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Ajjantis

Noone, EVER, forced you to read my threads. Stop clicking on them, stop annoying me. Get the fuck out of my threads and you are spared, ok?

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Drytan

The ca is being cured in those screenshots, not being over rid by an immunity. You can get around this by turning off auto face though, and controlling your character yourself. By doing this, the game detects your "back" by the direction your camera is facing and not the direction your character is facing. So if your quick with your camera, you can still hide your back by keeping your camera facing the rogue.

Ajjantis

Thanks for clearing that up Drytan. Demron is being stupid enough thinking i dont know what a cure is. The effect is clearly getting CURED. Even a mastercrafted freedom of action would probably cure it with its cure 97 level of root effects. Now i want my fucking 10 plat, teach him to not talk shit again like always.
Its funny when i am not 100 % correct a handful of trolls jump in and try to get a little piece of the big cake. But as soon as someone who is against me is wrong, everyone will shut the fuck up. Funny haha.

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AdaM pErSOn

While you can still cure the actual root, there is no cure to the direction change.

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