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Yes, unlike sibs ill take care of my problems instead of letting them talk on vent during raid!

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Sorry pal, but the context was Lynx's validity as a guild and their validity with making claims, which was implied by the nature of the statement and has everything to do with the nature of the title of this post. I changed nothing about the subject. I was just displaying your collective irrelevance.

Are you incapable to escape using the word "fail" like most are?

Again another poor example.

Yes, you do have to "Catch them" to have them "Arrested." Otherwise they will be let go as you do not have proof. You can however have them thrown out regardless.

Laws regarding Casinos are actually independant business laws that don't require evidence or burden of proof for removal. Casinos are proprietary organizations which can have you removed at any time for anything since you are on their private property, irrespective of whether you are actually cheating them or not. It doesn't have to be fraud, and they don't have to prove or even be skeptical of fraud to accuse you or have you thrown out. It's a means of protecting their profits but does not hold up in the court system as "Fraud" and arrests do not stick unless they caught you in the act. However they will use all manners of intimidation to try to get you to be dumb enough to admit to it.

Glad we could have this little lecture of the American Legal System. You'll find I'm a lot better at it than you are. Just like English. Hell you may as well pick a subject. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Really, you can get "tone" out of written text? (I suppose you should've specificied your context better....) Of course I know you mean syntax.

Obviously I didn't make any implication that if you don't cheat you aren't prepapred, and I'm sure your gear will work just fine also - for not progressing.



If you're more than a day or two behind them now, what makes you seriously think it will be that little later on? You think I'm insane...?




Again this doesn't show causation. They're dropping avatars in what 3 minutes or less? Sometimes with PvP on them. Do you really think 10 percent casting would in of itself change it so that they wouldn't win? Ridiculous.

All you showed is that it provides a tiny assistance to the speed they kill the mobs, not that it caused them to succeed.



It is your personal opinion that they never tried to play fairly. How do you know this? How do you know they aren't?

You can think whatever you like with one incontrovertable truth: They are better than you, whatever you like labelling them as.




Still waiting for that evidence of causation... Luckily you're in the minority for thinking cheats, and you have a personal bias so your opinion doesn't count for much.


Nice, I get to be the Bongmaster! I'm not a pot smoker by the way. Contrary to some in both guilds.

You would think Sissy leads just fine, you're in the guild. Notice how many left and have said after that he's a piece of shit. Notice how that number is much bigger than those who have said it about Kcirtap and Immortalis. Go figure.

I can't have an intelligent conversation with someone who litters their arguments with logical falsehoods. I could point them all out the next time you make a post but there wouldn't be much left in your statements.

I've already said before, if you guys want to be a truly cheat proof guild, you and Sissy should uninstall ACT. Or you're just a bunch of cheats also. Power to you and good luck on those raids you purists you.

Doommaster

Read the title of the thread. If you were attempting to post in another thread, then I can understand why you wandered from the topic at hand. Next time, please read the thread title and post in context!


You only have to catch them cheating, you don't have to prove that they benefitted from cheating - it is just assumed that they have or they will as some point. Much like we caught immortalis cheating, we don't have to prove they benefitted from it because we already know they did!

I never said they did. I said in order to throw them out AND have them arrested. Please read the post before you respond - that way you won't look stupid!


And I'm glad that you can pull responses out of thin air to statements that weren't even made! Is this just another attempt to divert the subject away from the fact that immortalis cheats and you defend them? For someone so "knowledgable in the law" I'm surprised that you would come on here and blatently defend cheaters. Are you a law school drop out - or perhaps you got thrown out for cheating????


I'd rather not progress at all then have to cheat in order to do it!


I thought we were talking about running zones and getting to 90 not clearing every raid zone in the expansion. Again you are way off track and trying to change the context of this discussion. I have no doubt that people who are cheating will clear raid zones faster than me. I really have no control over that because I use only what SOE gives me and abide by their rules. You probably don't understand what I mean when I say that I have morals!


Yes, they used those same cheats and exploits to farm the gear that allows them to kill avatars in 3 minutes or less while cheating! So yes, I believe that the hacks, cheats and exploits they have used all these years has helped their progression in many ways.

If cheats and exploits don't help them, then why do they use them?


Again, please pay attention and refer to the first post of this thread. I suppose you will try to say that those screenshots were photoshopped? I have some also if that will clear things up for you.



Better at cheating, yes. Better at honest game play - probably not!

My personal bias revolves around the fact that immortalis cheats. If they played fair, we wouldn't be having this discussion and I would be playing eq2 instead of going round and round with some loser who discusses a game that he doesn't even play!

I just asssumed you were by the way you rambled on about random topics!

As of now, nobody has given me a reason to hate him. I have seen people leave guild that magically hate him for stupid, childish reasons but that's it. If you can come up with something that would change my mind, I would really like to hear it. Up until now, nobody has spoken up when I asked them to list the reasons I should hate him!

That is because you keep attempting to sidetrack the thread by spewing out random responses that don't even apply to the topic at hand.

No, we are on the same level as every guild on every server in this game - if you consider that cheating, then why hasn't everyone been banned from the game like immortalis members were just recently for using known exploits?

Kcirtap

Suspended, not banned. Just like some of your guildies have been,

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Vumael Starveil

I didn't wander from the topic or thread title. Again the relevance of Mayhem members making such claims is at the heart of the issue. They have bias which negates the claim as fraudulent. My context was accurate.




Again, you use ACT right?

Arrested is defined as a forms of detainment. They can have them arrested and thrown out incorrectly as a forms of false arrest but not legitimate arrest and often do. Re-read your own post.




Nope, I just know a lot about the law as a personal hobby. Is your cheating accusation just another lame attempt to divert from not being able to pass Immortalis?



You use ACT right?




They'll clear the zones faster and get to 90 faster also for the previously mentioned reasons. Again you use ACT right?




If cheats and exploits don't help them, then why do they use them?

If cheats and exploits caused them to kill raid mobs, HOW?




Nope I won't, I'll continue to ask you the same thing. In what way did such exploits CAUSE progression? That still hasn't been answered.

You use ACT right?


You use ACT right?


I address only the nonsense you make up.



1.) He is a shitty leader that cares more about blocking Immortalis from raiding than progressing his own guild.

2.) He is more concerned with generating a profit from EQ2 than progressing his guild.

I'll be waiting for you to express your hatred.



Topic at hand "Immortalis Exploiting." Relevance - none. Make an irrelevant thread, get irrelevant responses.



You aren't on the same level, since Immortalis is ahead.

ACT IS considered cheating as it is a third party program that impacts gameplay. People aren't banned because it would be nearly everyone. It is cheating nonetheless.

I'll be waiting for you to uninstall ACT.

Soyee

get with the times.

Vumael Starveil

Get with my dick.

Sibslynx

Doom - it is best not to argue with Vumael. When I used to talk to Kcirtap he told me he has mental issues IRL, and I think that its best to just feel sorry for him and keep our arguing for those with the mental capacity to understand and competently argue.

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Uthel

While I agree about Vumael, arguing with you is very much like mud wrestling - win or lose everyone's coming out dirty, and very possibly naked.

If I wanted to be covered in mud and naked, I'd argue with you more often, but for when I don't want to spend the time, I will take two seconds to post a funny picture.

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