Progression Thread

[Path]

Originally Posted by Doommaster

We watch some of them and stop you when it's convenient but that is not the focus of our guild like it is for immortalis. Hell, you guys won't even let COH pull Tangrin!

As for people quitting, selling and coming back, it's not only you and Darnim but Path, Ciper, and a handful of others. Nobody who has done that should be on here calling out people for stopping raid progression or "ruining" guilds.

I may have quit as MT for a guild, but really.. It was Jonackee running the guild and he sucked ass at it and I got tired of his shit after I told him if he didn't quit his BS then I was leaving. I guess he didn't believe I would. Then I went to Reckoning, and I wasn't up to par, but hell I tried. I then sold when I wasn't interested in playing anymore. Came back, and unfortunately had to "leave" game due to a move. So technically, I never ruined guilds. One was because of a thickheaded annoying prick, and the other was because of life which happens. Fortunately Lynx had enough enchanters to form an x2 with it seems lol.

[Omence]

It's honestly sad how some of the members followed Sibslynx. Like Uilamin said it was out of desperation and a lack of options. There are a solid handfull of decent players in Mayhem and plenty of players on the Q side to choose from. You dont need sibs or his attached at the hip lackeys. Make a new guild with a fair and sensible leader.
Revelation should have done that as soon as sibs screwed them over hell the Mayans probably had predicted all of the guilds that sibs would and has destroyed.

The way things are looking for Mayhem right now.. I dont see palace getting cleared... dont see ykesha being cleared.. certainly not munzoks or miraguls. We all raid for different reasons or just play for different reasons. If thats the case and a majority of mayhem members dont care if they progress or ever see an upgrade then you are right where you belong.
Those of you who want more of Vox to succeed.. do something about it. Start a new guild focus on progression. Its pretty obvious that sibs doesnt care about progression or his guild members. He has become blinded by his past failures and the level of denial is unbelieveable.

[Sibslynx]

That is very logical Omence, since we came back with a hindered raid force and progressed farther then any guild in Qeynos in 1 week. 2coolforschool.

[Rigid]

Call it what ever you like Doom and believe what ever you like about Sibs and me for that metter. All I know is what I saw first hand when I was in guild with him. As for us being worried that he will recruit our members thats just is not the case. If they want to go there they are more than welcome to go and I will wish them the best if they do. This is a game I see no point in raging over someone going to a guild if they think they will be happy there and have fun. To date none of our members our on your roster though... That may change over the coming months as you said there are a lot of people who can't be pleased no matter what you do. SB isn't for everyone thats for sure.

I'll also never say the man can't run a raid or that he or Soyee suck at playing this game. To have done what you guys have done proves that there is some talent in your guild. I really don't know many of the current members of Mayhem but I am sure there a lot of them that are good people... The sad thing is they are not the vocal people in your guild so we are left to judge you by only Sibs, Soyee, Azaron, Frakem, and Kalgore. The proof of what I said lies in the amount of current people on Vox that were once in guild with him who are now somewhere else saying the same thing.

I am not bitter with Mayhem, Lynx or Sibs, the truth is I don't care about them at all. What you guys do or don't do does not confront me in the least until my guild gets brought into it as it was here by Frakem. Thats the only reason I took the time to post.

[Kcirtap]

Originally Posted by Sibslynx

That is very logical Omence, since we came back with a hindered raid force and progressed farther then any guild in Qeynos in 1 week. 2coolforschool.

You have one kill other Qeynos guilds do not and they have a handful you do not. I hardly call that further progressed. If you claim to have killed more, please do tell.

Originally Posted by Omence

The way things are looking for Mayhem right now.. I dont see palace getting cleared... dont see ykesha being cleared.. certainly not munzoks or miraguls. We all raid for different reasons or just play for different reasons. If thats the case and a majority of mayhem members dont care if they progress or ever see an upgrade then you are right where you belong.
Those of you who want more of Vox to succeed.. do something about it. Start a new guild focus on progression. Its pretty obvious that sibs doesnt care about progression or his guild members. He has become blinded by his past failures and the level of denial is unbelieveable.

Join Storm's Brew of CoH in my opinion. They are doing well and you could perhaps contribute. Just my suggestion.

It would be nice to see a fresh new raiding guild emerge however.

[Vumael Starveil]

Originally Posted by Doommaster

I have sat there and watched you guys kill avatars many times without even attempting to stop you. Sometimes we are in the middle of something more important and the reality is that we simply cannot get there in time to guarantee stopping you. It's really no big deal at this point anyway. Come next expansion there is more at stake when it comes to Avatars.

That makes sense considering that sometimes you guys can't field enough people to actually "stop" them.

Originally Posted by Doommaster

Unfortunately, there were people in the guild who would not have come with us regardless of the circumstances. They started in Freeport and that is where they wanted to stay. There was no point waiting around and further just to passify a couple players who were going to gear up and leave guild anyway. Sibs showed leadership and made a very difficult decision for the good of the guild. If the rest of the guild members didn't like it, they could have stayed in FP and appointed a new leader. That didn't happen because 95% of the members agreed with sibs and trusted his leadership.

Turns out that he was right. We are doing better now than we ever were in Freeport - even without masters.

Turns out that these people were guranteed to not come with you if you didn't inform them. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Sibslynx

That is very logical Omence, since we came back with a hindered raid force and progressed farther then any guild in Qeynos in 1 week. 2coolforschool.

Sissy again with the logic... You can tell he's gonna say something stupid when he tries to use the "logics..."

Notice how you're saying how quickly you've progressed rather than how far. What you haven't said is how you haven't "progressed" back to even where you were, which should have happened immediately if you were in fact stronger now. No one cares how "fast" you progress if you already have experience killing the mobs, unless it's the first time you're doing them.

You're no savant Sissy, you're just playing catch up to where you were, and very slowly at that.

[Doommaster]

Originally Posted by Uilamin

the results of the decision doesn't really matter, it is how the decision is made. The decision was made by sibs for his own sake, not for the sake of the guild and all those that followed. Look at what I bolded, it shows that Sibs did it for himself and not the others. The others followed just because they had no other option. The act of following there isn't due to leadership, it is from desperation. The act of moving wasn't an act for the greater good of the guild, it was an act of selfish desire.

So by your logic Sibs personally had something to gain by moving to Qeynos? If he was the only one that moved, what exactly would he have to gain?

Money? He has the same opportunity to make money in Freeport.

Stopping immortalis on avatars? He already had an army of exiles that,with a little more gear, could stop immortalis from pulling avatars. He doesn't even watch them half the time.

Please tell us the personal reasons you think sibs went to Qeynos.

[Doommaster]

Originally Posted by Vumael Starveil

What you haven't said is how you haven't "progressed" back to even where you were, which should have happened immediately if you were in fact stronger now.

Nobody ever said we were stronger - just better. We no longer have masters, and that in itself was a huge disadvantage that we overcame. Suffice it to say that we now have an excellent raid force and are beyond where anyone of us expected. There is no point in broadcasting our progression here because all that does is invite the moderator and his cronies to downplay our achievements and start flame wars.

If you want to know how far we have progressed, i'm sure you can figure out a way!

[Sibslynx]

Originally Posted by Kcirtap

You have one kill other Qeynos guilds do not and they have a handful you do not. I hardly call that further progressed. If you claim to have killed more, please do tell.



Join Storm's Brew of CoH in my opinion. They are doing well and you could perhaps contribute. Just my suggestion.

It would be nice to see a fresh new raiding guild emerge however.

Its alot more than 1, when a progression thread is hacker/exploiter free wed be glad to contribute to it.

[Sibslynx]

Originally Posted by Rigid

LOL your such a tard man.... If progression is your only judgment on what makes a good guild your honestly are in the right guild for you.

SB has progressed though not only that we are comfortable with our progression. We only raid three nights a week and only compete in progression with ourselves. Sure we would love to be the top raid guild on the server but we are not going to go so hardcore that raiding and gaming is our life or a second job we are just not that guild man and I like it that way. We only really give a shit about what we do, and not so much about what everyone else does or has done. Unlike another guild that cares more about the progression of Immortalis than their own. I mean c'mon you guys did have more progression than all guilds on the server except Immortalis yet you are the least respected guild on the server on both factions. No one likes you and that has to suck.. No matter what you guys do no one will really care or respect you for it.

The fact is little boy that your leader had in his hand the potential to be the best raid guild on this server. However his arrogance and his shortsightedness cost him that and continues to cost him that. He once had in his raid force a large chunk of Vox’s best raiders: Omence, Salems, Soulsteal, Romulos, Paws, Edain, Dalimar, Duno, Rhoellen, Vasu, all Immortalis. SB Ripchord, Cephas, Xicuj, Gosling, Growlz, Soultracker, Akehia and myself. In COH Killque, and Silke. That’s 19 of some of the best or to say the least better raiders on this server who were all in his guild at the same time. Now, he has also had several people who are now very capable raiders that were not raiding then but were in guild with him. Rockcoastie (motogod), Cope (odid), Sergeant (greatwhitehype), and Dojac. That’s just the SB ones I know of. I don’t even know how many freeps he had in guild with him that are now raiding with immortalis or COH.

There is little doubt in my mind that if those people I mentioned were in the same guild right now that guild would be as progressed if not further in progression than what he has right now. He is such a tool that he figured out a way of pissing them off enough to go somewhere else. My only regret in leaving his guild is that of those people we didn’t discuss how much of a tool he was back when we were all in the same guild and could have ended up together in a guild. I still consider many of those people good people and friends. I wonder how many of them Sibs considers friends even though they helped him progress to where he is.

Sibs only cares about himself and thinks that he should have the respect of this server… but yet everything thing he has ever done has cost him that respect. He doesn’t give one shit about the people playing the toon’s in guild with him as long as he is getting what he wants. He can blame Immortalis for cheating every day and it will not change the fact his guild is at best going to be second best on this server…. always. No matter what faction he is on there are going to be more people of that faction not like him than that do. You can not fuck over as many people as he has and want them to like you for it.

So before you trash my guild again Frakem remember SB was your first choice at a raid guild and your app was rejected. It may also be in your interest to keep in mind that your leader has a track record of pissing people off enough for them to look for a new guild. You run your mouth so much on here and in game that it shows that you are a person of such poor character that you will not find anyone else wanting you in guild on this server. I don’t care how much you can parse or how good you may be you will never be the type of person I would want to be in guild with.

If you want respect then earn it and give it when it’s due… If you want to be seen as a little kid that don’t really know shit about anything keep running your mouth because all you ever do when you speak is prove to the rest of the server that you’re a tard.

As for SB we are who we are and we are proud of that. If you think we suck because we haven’t killed Gynok or an avatar then you need to take another look at what we also haven’t done.

We haven’t had every person on the server in guild and pissed them off enough to leave.

We haven’t judged every guild or person on this server as being shitty players, douche bags, or cheaters because they don’t worship our guildleader.

We have never charged one person plat to get their mythical.
Our leaders have never charged a member of our guild plat for a zone loot item.

We have never asked our members to save status items for the guild hall while selling ours to make RL cash.

We have never wished real world ill will on any player that has left the guild.

We have never had masters from the guild bank strangely appear on the leader’s broker for sell to make RL cash.

We have never talked bad about someone in game dying.

We have never swapped factions just because the other guild in that faction was better than us.

We have never had to spam open chat every three minutes for members because we hastily made a choice to exile when several of our members thought it was a bad move.

We have never judged ourselves as failures based on the success of other guilds.

Grats on beating us to that shit and server firsting most of it guys.

Could we get that listed on the progression thread?of it guys.

The good players that I was sad to lose to Immortalis, joined them because we left to FP. No hard feelings, there wasnt an option if you wanted to keep your spells at the time. I was suprised to see someone like Rhoellan cheating in Immortalis after years of guilding with him and hed always despised it, but I guess thats what happens. You say we are the least respected guild yet your guild Storms Brew wouldnt be raiding right now if we recruit all those that have asked to join. I am confused why that is, with us beign hated and me being such a greedy person, why do so many ask to join? Most of what you have said in this post is mis information and outright lies. I would expect better but I guess in your situation you have to try to make us look bad since you are afraid of losing people. You shouldnt worry though, I only want enough people to raid, which we are short 2-3 people. I will not be like Immortalis and try to hurt guilds promising fake raid spots or loot. I want qeynos to be a strong side and work together, so hopefully in teh future such lies and slandar can be avoided.