Geistman

Hey fellow Wardens!

I played around with a parse of a chelly fight and wanted to check on my Natural Boon Procs, but was pretty confused by the numbers it showed me.

First of all I can finally say for sure, that NB procs of Nature Blade and Furious Onslaugt (That earring of the wanderer thingie). So basically it's possible that it procs of every melee damage proc (where text say hits blablabla for melee damage). don't know yet if it can proc more times at once when furious onslaught procs.

At that fight I was in group with a templar with Blessings and a dirge with their proc thingie, so should effect my proc-rate positivly.

Here are the numbers:
I did 168 swings on whatever melee damage (procs included)
124 hits / 44 misses (hit ratio of 74%)

now the strange thing:
I had 61 hits of Natural Boon on my parse.
those are 27 actual procs (counting only procs with different timestamps, except one groupmember gets at least 2 natural boons, happend 3 times).

Now doing the math I get:
real proc rate (hits and misses): 16%
proc rate on hits only: 22%
I mean jesus I got a templar and a dirge!

Now isn't that a bit lame? 22%!!!

Correct me when im wrong, the number of procs isn't influenced by the delay of the weapon, i.e. a 1 delay weapon procs same often per minute as a 3 delay weapon, although it's a % based with NB.
but it doesn't scale with haste, making procs more often to occure the more haste you got.
(just talkin about Natural Boon here)

but if thats the case and i do away the haste which i had it even gets less and it's bad already. Well not bad actually but much worse then i expected!

If that numbers are right it's f*** lame and I'm seriously missing at least 20% procs, which are actually more then 20 procs of Natural Boon!! I mean thats around 15k healing in that fight!! hello 15k! where are my 15k?

Geistman

I did some more testing, this time hitting on a 60^^^ heroic mob (corrupted growth essence in lesser fay) and used for a higher hit count the Scepter of Rahotep (1,8 delay), but it even gets worse.

~ 6 mins of beating a single mob
298 hits
46 procs
makes 15% proc

i even removed every proc haste and dps to really get a clear result.

well let's say it normalizes the proc rate with the delay of the weapon then the at the description at Natural Boon stated 32% proc rate would need a 3,7 delay weapon. any comfirmation on that?

Ahlspiess

It normalizes the proc rates.

The calculation is:

(Weapon Delay / 3.0 Delay) X Proc rate = Proc

So every 3 seconds you can proc. If you had 100% proc rate you would proc 20 times a minute and no more then that.

A 32% proc rate is 6.4 times per minute.

Rule of thumb every 5% Proc rating is 1 proc per minute.

Geistman

Thx, missed the formula and was pretty confused by the numbers.
Actually I just wanted to find out on what it procs and at least i got that.
The Proc rate is ok, the mistake was that I counted doubleattacks as 2 hits, but i guess NB cant proc of the second attack .

Nevertheless, NB procs of

• successful melee attacks (not doubleattacks)
• Procs when the Proc effect says "inflicts xxx melee damage on target" (Planar Orb of the Wanderer, seems to only proc once for the 3 attacks)
• CAs which say "inflicts xxx melee damage on target" (Nature Blade, Primordial Strike, and the int one)

Procs for 6.4 times per minute with 8 AAs (32%) (Thx Ahl)
i.e. ~9.5 secs GroupHeal for 312 (crit 405) => 2,9 k Groupheal/min (up to 17.7k for whole Group/min) => 49-296 BASE HPS

Erion

I have been watching mine lately too and one thing I noticed is ACT doesn't pick it up if it doesn't heal. I went melee for the 3rd floor trash in EH the other night and it only proc'd and showed up in act when someone in group needed a heal.