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[Oakmiser]

Originally Posted by Indurkin

Here is the trouble, using your example, fighting Cheldrak I used to be 1st on the parse by a fair amount, as the raidforce (MT in particular) got better geared my position dropped down leaving me forth or fifth with maybe 20% the heal output of the other MT healers. This is because I am slacking or a "Shitty Warden" as you put it?? No! its because Cheldrak can no longer hit the tank enough for him to actually lose hit points that the other 2 MT healers dont have covered before your heals even get to tick. Thats not letting other healers do your job better, it's simple fucking game mechanics.

This pattern repeats itself over and over as you go through raid content, once its broken and your force has encounters at farm status you are hardly needed at all, I DPS on Cheldrak now but what class cant out DPS a Warden?, even if you go with some stupid Melee spec (if I wanted to melee I'd have rolled a scout) Now in other zones I can still hit 3rd most of the time on the raidwide but its a pretty dismal 3rd throwing the odd heal in while banging out dismally poor DPS

So what happens? On trash its better to have an extra hate transfer in MT group so the DPS can beat on the mob a little harder without pulling aggro, so what? you get put in the mage group? No! a fury has much better buffs for that, in fact a different type of healer is better for every other group and on the names when you are still useful, well a fury can cover that because you never, ever get to flat out heal.

Now in a situation where the tanks health bar is mostly below 100% a warden will easily out heal any other class by a fair margin. Yes if you get adds and the shit hits the fan then Wardens rock, but with a decent tank who knows the zone and a well disiplined raidforce, this almost never happens.

So here is the thing, they have changed nothing as far as I can see to change this, unless the raid content itself has something interesting to throw at us. If that is not the case then I think once we have the RoK content broken I'll be looking for a main change.

QFE

If anyone ever needs to know why wardens aren't needed on raids they need to qoute this.