Group Sow please ! - Page 3

kaif · 02-06-2008, 11:37 PM

They gave us Necros MGB hearts....

Indurkin · 02-15-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Symbolic

God damnit, I want a tree pet, and a pack of stupid ass wolves.

How about a wolf pet and a pack of stupid ass trees

Think about it, a fucking 7 foot tall wolf that cant move and heals a bit and a shit load of little trees that run in and do a little dammage.

Oakmiser · 02-15-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indurkin

How about a wolf pet and a pack of stupid ass trees

Think about it, a fucking 7 foot tall wolf that cant move and heals a bit and a shit load of little trees that run in and do a little dammage.

lol <3 you for just saying that

Eminaria · 02-15-2008, 11:09 PM

No, what they should have done instead of giving us the fearie is to make a forest spell similar to the tree spell except popping 24 tree's one for each member of the raid, that only heals them, and oh, make them BIGGER!

Pinski · 02-16-2008, 12:17 AM

How about Instinct adds 5-15% strikethrough!

Seiryu · 02-21-2008, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladred

Because I like to question the Daria's in our midst, show me the factual proof where a player has used 'stupid ass crap like this' to make us have a 'tree pet' and a 'pack of stupid ass wolves'.

I see negative nannies spouting this tripe constantly in here, and I want to see some actual proof, instead of your personal speculation, where the players have manipulated the outcome of abilities for their class, specifically the 'tree pet' and the 'pack of stupid ass wolves'.

Show me the place where the players have stood up against the establishment and demanded a 'tree pet' and a 'pack of stupid ass wolves'.

I dont see how you can not have seen tons of people defending the tree and the fairy etc. crap that is worthless to a warden in a top raiding guild. No offense but im not sure if you are in a position to realize how worthless these spells are.

Ladred · 02-21-2008, 11:18 AM

Defending would signify post tree/wolf implementation. I was speaking of pre implementation. I didn't see a lot of players lobbying to give us a pack of wolves and the tree, which are just a hot and a dot that can be canceled/countered by your opponent. I also didn't see anyone getting a hardon for a fairy before RoK. Truth is that there have been no advocates for these abilities before they came out, but there are plenty of advocates against them after they were introduced.

The statement that you made...

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Its because of stupid ass crap like this that we have a tree pet and a pack of stupid ass wolves.

... is just troll crap. Before we received the wolves, fairy and tree there wasn't anyone advocating for it. When we do advocate for somehting useful, like a group sow, then you make comments like this, that are quite counter intuitive to getting things done in our favor.

It reminds me of a time back at one of the fan faires, before we had a decent root or snare, that I suggested a change to our root spell. I suggested something like gaping maw from the spell list in D&D. This roots, dots and snares. I described the spell, and how it worked in my imagination back in my teenage years when I was more in to tabletops. Where a huge maw of earth would open up under you and engulf your legs, inhibiting your movement at first, but each tick you'd free yourself more, but take damage in the attempt to get free. It was a quick description, and when I was presenting it there was a lot of noise, so I didn't think it went through. The next root spell we received after that was the root with a snare component when the root breaks. I can't take all the credit for the change, but I'd like to think I had some influence.

Which is what we are attempting to work towards. Positive change, if you don't speak up on what you want, you get a pack of wolves, a tree, and a fairy. In my personal opinion, I don't find anything wrong with these three abilities, and wouldn't trade their group/solo/raiding usefullness for spells that were only useful for avatar and deep vp raiding.

Oakmiser · 02-21-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladred

It reminds me of a time back at one of the fan faires, before we had a decent root or snare, that I suggested a change to our root spell. I suggested something like gaping maw from the spell list in D&D. This roots, dots and snares. I described the spell, and how it worked in my imagination back in my teenage years when I was more in to tabletops. Where a huge maw of earth would open up under you and engulf your legs, inhibiting your movement at first, but each tick you'd free yourself more, but take damage in the attempt to get free. It was a quick description, and when I was presenting it there was a lot of noise, so I didn't think it went through. The next root spell we received after that was the root with a snare component when the root breaks. I can't take all the credit for the change, but I'd like to think I had some influence.

Which is what we are attempting to work towards. Positive change, if you don't speak up on what you want, you get a pack of wolves, a tree, and a fairy. In my personal opinion, I don't find anything wrong with these three abilities, and wouldn't trade their group/solo/raiding usefullness for spells that were only useful for avatar and deep vp raiding.

Do you REALLY think that we haven't given enough suggestions or are we not being articulate enough?

I gave tons and tons of /feedback before I just flat out quit the game and got angry with SoE nearly 6 months ago. I haven't even come back to try out RoK, because all of the contents pertaining to the warden community are a let down.

1/3 of our epic sucks, Tunare's Watch didn't get an update, and we got a 2nd killable heal spamming summonable NPC.---And don't even get me started about how un-needed we are past breaking through raid content!!

Ladred · 02-21-2008, 09:12 PM

We have, there is no doubt. The position that I'm discussing with a previous poster is if our suggestions had any influence on the development of the wolves, tree, and fairy. Or if it was decided in a stuffy meeting room where the Warden Oversite Committee discussed our abilities and came out nine hours later after several pizzas and red bull with the ideas of the wolves, tree and fairy. I mean, because I personally try to envision how this meeting went, what the dialogue was like to come up with those conclusions.

Aerofae · 02-21-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakmiser

Do you REALLY think that we haven't given enough suggestions or are we not being articulate enough?

I gave tons and tons of /feedback before I just flat out quit the game and got angry with SoE nearly 6 months ago. I haven't even come back to try out RoK, because all of the contents pertaining to the warden community are a let down.

1/3 of our epic sucks, Tunare's Watch didn't get an update, and we got a 2nd killable heal spamming summonable NPC.---And don't even get me started about how un-needed we are past breaking through raid content!!

I must say it's total bullshit about the epic.. unlimited power is not crap at all and it does make us useful because we are alot more reliable on constant healing for very long fights without needs to be manaflowed anymore (and don't tell me "i don't have power problem" it's just a lie).

The fairy isn't crap at all also.. i cast it everytime i can and i'm pretty sure the 800 heal it got when it dies just saved a few mages everytime on big aoe's.. not to mention if it doesn't die it can do over 25k heal over time for only 600 power cost.. can you see other skill that got same healing power as this?

And if wardens are so not needed why in almost every raid you see one?