Warden v.s Fury..... Which class is best?

ameno · 02-24-2008, 06:20 PM

I am kind of new to druid class, been playing on pvp for a long time. after being stuck in T2 for ages, I have decided I will goa head and make a PvE warden(just sick of low tiers and upper tier pvp sucks imo). I have been getting alot of people telling me that warden is overrated and that fury is a more needed class. I know that in lower level warden seems to be the more superior of the two. so my question is, do these people know what they are talking about, can a fury do just as much or more than a warden? I know that in certain areas classes shine, im just saying in general, solo, groups. I don't know if i would do much raiding, need to learn upper tier content. So if anyone has any comments about the subject, they are welcome here. thanks...

Fijiram · 02-24-2008, 06:21 PM

I wouldnt do a warden's job as a fury even tho I could pull it off , think about that.

also tank needs their offensive buff more than agitate in the mt group soo..

ameno · 02-24-2008, 07:12 PM

yeah, I should have asked this in original thread too. With the release of RoK did furys get beefed up somehow. just can't figure out why so many people have been saying so many bad things about wardens. just want to make sure my efforts wont be in vein. spent the last 2 weeks getting this warden to 65 lol. i dont want to leave a class and find that the one i left it for sucks.

Malignx · 02-24-2008, 09:27 PM

Fury, for too many reasons to list. When people tell you Warden, I hope you aren't talking to your PVP buddies because its a completely different scene as far as whats useful and whats not.

ameno · 02-24-2008, 09:35 PM

really phay? man, that just shocks me, specially coming from an 80 warden lol. but thanks for your input, feel free to ellaborate on why you feel that way. don't mean to bug, just very curious. thanks

Malignx · 02-24-2008, 11:52 PM

Furys buff better.
Furys DPS better.
Furys heal about the same.
Not that anyone cares about druid debuffs, but Furys do it better.

In a nutshell.

Aerofae · 02-25-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Malignx

Furys buff better.
Furys DPS better.
Furys heal about the same.
Not that anyone cares about druid debuffs, but Furys do it better.

In a nutshell.

What our dearest friend is always forgetting to mention is the fun factor.. warden is just fun class to play... first of all, warden is very versatile class.. it got basically alot of skills that suits for alot of occasions, and it got 2 options for dps: spell casting and melee.
Also, warden got better heals than furies (every heal warden got is abot 15% bigger than fury but that's negligible sometime), but we got at least 3-4 unique skills that they don't got which can be very handy and alot of cases.

Yeah you won't be able to dps as good as fury but so what? are you healer or dps class? and who really needs more debuffs when you got tons of others debuffers on the raid?

Point is warden is a good fun class that got many uses if you know how to play your class right (i'm sure phay know how to but he just like to moan all the time

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I personally don't feel my class got shafted in RoK compared to furies and with our epic we are even stronger healers compared to fury that's all.

Lithin · 02-25-2008, 02:09 AM

fury owns the warden in soo many points.. the only reason why my alt is a warden is when we need a druid in the MT group on raids (when we got the other swash there ) i might aswell take the warden and be able to pump out that extra bit of healing

Snark · 02-25-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerofae

What our dearest friend is always forgetting to mention is the fun factor..

LOL thats right, when listing game mechanics dont forget to leave out the mysterious FUN FACTOR that always adds to balance

wow phay why do you even post

Malignx · 02-25-2008, 03:21 AM

We don't have two good options, we have one. That one doesn't compare to Furys one choice either.

Our heals may look better if you total up the damage from the ticks after the direct, but how often do they really come into play? Thats right, not that often. Considering tanks are generally topped off practically instantly and never balanced somewhere in between where our heals atleast get 60% effectiveness.

Also, as far as us healing better than them just because our heals show to be "15% more" have you forgotten about the downtime, and what they can do, that we can't?
\aITEM -683275438 -2116193375:Return to the Pack (Master I)\/a
\aITEM -828967521 -881978670:Hibernate (Master I)\/a

I would go into the mathematics of what these two spells total to compared to ours but I doubt most of you care, including me. Just know what it means.

Yeah Snark, pretty much.