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Old 03-25-2008, 08:26 PM  
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also just noticed on set gear

Legs - give bonus to healstorm - chest - extra dmg to grp encounter dmg.

Great - the best legs (CoD) clashes with a decent bonus effect from legs from set gear - whereas the chest set piece effect - grp encounter dmg spell bonus - is complete plop and only thing i can think of it might clash with is phara dar chest piece (uber reuse speed reduction - oooooooooooooo) or crappy SoF cloth armor chest for 10% casting speed reduction

how bout getting rid of this crap effect - lets face it - other healers who arent supposed to be 'dps' can give wardens a run for their money when it comes to dps - so least give us sommit that be useful
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:43 AM  
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Jallarial, shut the fuck up.

You're a dumb fucking cunt if you think any of that shit should happen.

Does 2 set suck?
Yes

Does that mean they will give you the obsurd in its place?
NO

Learn to suggest something reasonable. Apply common fucking sense before speaking/posting. If you can't do that, don't fucking post.
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:10 AM  
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i wont be shutting the fuck up and im certainly not a dumb fuckin cunt.

The warden class needs help. The gear and effects is pants - suggesting things of what to change or pointing out why they crap is not doing anything unreasonable.

Sony dont take much notice of what anyone says so why i need to 'learn' to suggest something reasonable makes no sense. Then again - your posts rarely do all they achieve is to swear at peeps who are posting.
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:31 AM  
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phay didnt use to be a useless cunt on necro forums, shame really cos he had a use back then.

phay how bout you make a suggestion you fucking gimp

groupwide instinct unreasonable after seeing illusionist mythical groupwide effect?
swapping chest and leg bonus unreasonable? really?

in your exact words: Learn to suggest something reasonable. Apply common fucking sense before speaking/posting. If you can't do that, don't fucking post.

how bout you make a fucking suggestion yourself, and make a post that has some use while you are at it

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Old 03-26-2008, 05:15 PM  
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Are you comparing 75 Haste/10% Double Attack to 10% Accuracy (a little more with +79 to all skills) and 7% Double Attack?

-You do realize how much Haste people have in raids right?
-You also realize Illusionists are generally in hybrid groups with no more than two melee classes(one of which, a Troubador) right?
-You do realize that a flat rate accuracy buff is currently more desirable than anything else towards a melee class?

I completely agree, the Warden class needs help. But that is not the answer, its overpowered.

As far as my suggestions:
-Change Winds of Artic Cold to Icefall or Dawnfire, it should be something towards heals but if it has to stay a nuke, make it one of those two, also for balancing purposes, the legs/bp focus should be switched, but since all others are that way, should just keep it.
-You could make the 4) focus change Instinct to a concentration required buff, as opposed to only one to be maintained, or a free-group buff, that way it actually costs you something.
-An appropriate 2 could be a buff to Tunare's Watch, make it heal xx% direct, and xx% every x seconds of group's max health when it triggers. It would eliminate the lameness of the spell, and that being the heal outdated. Which would mean it might actually save the tank from a double-attack kill shot, that should have been nullified from the Death Intervention in the first place.
-?) xx% avoidance or block chance to Gale.

In addition, don't be dumb when setting these stats.
For example: On the forearms, if we are putting the strength to use, we are not putting the intelligence to use, if you put str on shit, put wis on it, not int. The same thing can be said for the individual effect on this: +100Spell&CA? Give me a break, CA&Heal is what it should be.

-On "Heal" Pieces: +Heals/+Spells or one of the other crits, sta/wis/int.
-On "Nuke" Pieces: +Spells/Heals or one of the other in crits, int/sta/wis
-On "Melee" Pieces: +CA Damage/Heals or one of the other in crits/double attack, str/sta/wis

These suggestions probably aren't what you want to see, but as far as defensive healing goes, and utility thats probably about as good as you could get without breaking balance scales of set pieces. Its the Warden classes spells that need to be looked at, spells that never changed with game mechanics from fucking ages ago.

I'm all out of innovative suggestions anyways, used them on the Fury set.

*Edited in the stats portion of my post*

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Old 03-26-2008, 05:28 PM  
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Now that I've made the post with suggestions to pacify people who think I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Please, stop being stupid.

Thanks!
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:21 PM  
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I had this somewhat long winded post typed out in response to a lot of this....

BUT...

This community is HOPELESS.

Nothing is ever going to change this community and the people who play this class and its a shame. I honestly feel as a developer I would have told this class to go fuck off a long time ago. The devs finally listen to us and give us a suggestion we made and what is the reaction of our community? You guys go off on retard tangents and bitch about completely unrelated issues and ask for more. Seriously learn to STFU. This isn't about fixing our class. This is about fixing our fucking VP set. If this is how you guys react every time they implement one of our suggestions for the class I don't see them implementing much more in the future.

I cant think of a single way to word any response that doesn't provoke an outpouring of even more idiocy from this community and this forum. So, I'm just going to save myself the lesson in how to be a whiny pussy hurt retard and stop reading this thread here.
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rof lawl

i think im just gonna focus on my fuckin dirge...
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Originally Posted by WC-Larry View Post
I had this somewhat long winded post typed out in response to a lot of this....

BUT...

This community is HOPELESS.

Nothing is ever going to change this community and the people who play this class and its a shame. I honestly feel as a developer I would have told this class to go fuck off a long time ago. The devs finally listen to us and give us a suggestion we made and what is the reaction of our community? You guys go off on retard tangents and bitch about completely unrelated issues and ask for more. Seriously learn to STFU. This isn't about fixing our class. This is about fixing our fucking VP set. If this is how you guys react every time they implement one of our suggestions for the class I don't see them implementing much more in the future.

I cant think of a single way to word any response that doesn't provoke an outpouring of even more idiocy from this community and this forum. So, I'm just going to save myself the lesson in how to be a whiny pussy hurt retard and stop reading this thread here.

Well said.
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:58 PM  
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Originally Posted by WC-Larry View Post
I had this somewhat long winded post typed out in response to a lot of this....

BUT...

This community is HOPELESS.

Nothing is ever going to change this community and the people who play this class and its a shame. I honestly feel as a developer I would have told this class to go fuck off a long time ago. The devs finally listen to us and give us a suggestion we made and what is the reaction of our community? You guys go off on retard tangents and bitch about completely unrelated issues and ask for more. Seriously learn to STFU. This isn't about fixing our class. This is about fixing our fucking VP set. If this is how you guys react every time they implement one of our suggestions for the class I don't see them implementing much more in the future.

I cant think of a single way to word any response that doesn't provoke an outpouring of even more idiocy from this community and this forum. So, I'm just going to save myself the lesson in how to be a whiny pussy hurt retard and stop reading this thread here.
Yes, well said. This set is not perfect but at least its not more Fury gear.

Is this a sign that SOE is paying a little attantion to the class? Is this the hint that their plan is for Furies to Nuke and Wardens to Melee? because although I've heard that argument before and our AAs suit it, the gear available to us just never fit the bill....thoughts?
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