Warden VP dps parses - Page 3

Superbad · 08-06-2008, 11:14 PM

hmmmmm very interesting indeed, anyone else have any input?

WC-Larry · 08-07-2008, 03:27 AM

You guys are dumb if any of you believe that heal crit affects infusion at all.

The only things that affect infusion are SPELL CRIT, INTELLIGENCE, and BASE DAMAGE (Blood Thirsty Choker, Dark Orb, Mace of Everlasting, Troub mythical).

Just wow...

SERIOUSLY STOP MAKING US LOOK RETARDED

Febrith Darkstar · 08-07-2008, 04:57 AM

Just as a side point I specced out infusion some time ago and into Nature Walk. My raid role can vary between main tank group, caster group and sometimes the dps/OT group depending on scenario. Does EVERYbody spec for Infusion again now? o.O

Xyvilijlsys · 08-07-2008, 05:06 AM

Zomg Olett! where the fuck you been!?

Infusion will not proc other procs.

It's simply a filler when velium frost(+tide), thunderspike(+tide), and icefall are all down throw in a healstorm(if you could use it) or a SoW(make sure you're close to the target) while you're waiting for your dawnstrike to refresh.

...and yes, you are dumb if you think it crits off heal crit

Zuiya · 08-07-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Febrith Darkstar

Just as a side point I specced out infusion some time ago and into Nature Walk.

That makes no sense. Why would you have to spec out of Infusion to get Nature Walk, they are in different trees with separate sets of points.

Febrith Darkstar · 08-07-2008, 06:05 AM

Waaa that'll teach me to look at my trees before typing - I meant Serenity. TS and Serenity as opposed to TS and Infusion.

tracheaspider · 08-07-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel

Could be coincidence but with spell crit stuff on I was dpsing 350ish-400 as a nuking warden. With heal gear/heal crit stuff I'm dpsing 600-700ish in VP. I'm usually in the MT group, so it's not troub buffed.

Or maaaaaybe, just maybe, it's that in heal gear you tend to (/gasp) heal more and thus set off infusion more. If you work it, infusion alone can easily do 400+ in raids. It did 366 ZW (45% of total) for me solo healing RE tonight in full heal gear (w/ coercive healing, 2 pets and a non-myth troub) and I wasn't working it hard cuz I was talking to Larry (about how dumb this post was, among other things) for the entire 2nd half of the zone.

Laalon · 08-07-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Superbad

I thought procs won't go off on another proc anymore.

Correct, procs don't proc other procs.

Superbad · 08-07-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WC-Larry

You guys are dumb if any of you believe that heal crit affects infusion at all.

Yea ... I thought that seemed kinda silly, hence my long hmmmmm response

WC-Larry · 08-07-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Febrith Darkstar

Just as a side point I specced out infusion some time ago and into Nature Walk. My raid role can vary between main tank group, caster group and sometimes the dps/OT group depending on scenario. Does EVERYbody spec for Infusion again now? o.O

Most of the Wardens are probably spec Infusion by this point. Basically, Tortoise Shell is situational at best (and really only REQUIRED if your raid leaders have a hard on for Tortoise Shell and actually use is as a part of a strat). Serenity is nice for some fights (Trakanon, Byzola, some avatars) but again is definetly not required and will not really be the deciding factor whether your raid wins or not. I recently spec out of Tortoise Shell myself in favor of Serenity and I dont think I'll look back unless Shell is required for some specific mob my guild feels I need to respec for.

The popular 'full healing' spec still includes both Serenity and Tortoise Shell, but for the majority of the Wardens playing finishing out Sta and Agi is really optional and dependent upon your guild / raid leaders more than anything. It goes without saying everyone is still at least spec 4 4 4 8 in both STA and AGI for the heal crits and Wild Regeneration, but a lot of us have either dropped Tortoise Shell, Serenity, or both in favor of more overall useful AAs.

It is my opinion that out of all the AA's available to a druid, Infusion and Wild Regeneration are the only must haves. It is without a doubt one of my #1 sources of outgoing dps and on the harder fights it is often times the ONLY source of my dps outside of Velium Frost and Nature's Pack which always dies instantly anyways. If you have never tried out an Infusion spec it is something I highly recommend. It is an easy, free, no brainer way to contribute DPS while performing our primary role.