Veedub

Let's see, dead class because Warden's suck for raiding and dead forum because we are tired of bitching for years on how much we suck.

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Veedub - 80 Warden
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kxizm

yeah.... i enjoy playing a warden and all, but if SOE doesnt do some serious work with wardens i think theyre gonna lose a lot of players. or maybe theyll jus reroll an actually useful class lol

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Naie

They still haven't done anything about it? Jeez. Talk about slackers.

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WC-Larry

Nope. The warden buffs still = suck.
Well the skills buff is pretty leet ONLY IF you can get 6 pieces from your end tier fabled armor set and its still only one person so its definetly not getting us a raid spot.

Our relative DPS is probably the lowest it has ever been. Practically any class with the proper spec and group can outparse us. At least in T7 I felt when I tried I could actually get some DPS comprable to some of the other priests / support classes, but this tier it feels hopeless at times trying to compete.

As far as heals go. We still can do crazy AE healing and spike healing like we always have (probably even better now), but wards still > all and clerics now have a bunch of ways to get their own wards (yay for shitty itemization where all the best items in game are chain and plate). With a templar in ward proc gear and their level 80 god spell Repent and a well geared shaman in ward proc gear there is virtually nothing to ever heal.

Ideally in any guild, wardens are completely phased out as a necessary element after 2-3 kills of a paticular mob and in some cases before then.

*edited for typos*

Naie

All of this sounds like exactly the situation I remember, only back then the whole game would freeze, lag and involve way too many charms and trash. So getting to sit out was nice. If the content has improved but wardens still don't have a solid place in end game raids, then I don't think things will ever change. But I'm sort of a negative nancy.

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Kolett

agrees, so i hang out in <3bone forum.. much more entertaining, i get on warden forums and i get pissed... wonder y? Cuz i'm reminded how much work and purpose our class still needs, bad enof each expan comes out i'm looking around @ the raid and there are less n less druids in the raid, now were down to 2 druids a fury sometimes i c two and A warden...some guild leaders don't even see the point anymore a few great guilds dont even have a warden lol er using their warden as a "back-up" now that's sad... so now i gotta go back to <3bone forums to lift my spirits again (:

Btw im wondering how many wardens are actually /feedback er actually complaining to the right ppl and how often.. maybe if we do it enof the right way... /shrug just a thought

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WC-Larry

Beta should be right around the corner. We will have our chance to make ourselves heard then. Whether or not people actually listen however... Yeah.

Oh well.
At least I can always say I was there and in raid the first time anything was killed by my guild and really... Those are the most fun moments.

Kolett

I vote stike... yes let's start a strike and we can all roll furies! Yes that'll show'em

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Ariel

Had a discussion with a dev about it, and the basic reply was ...well 24 classes, 24 raid spots, not everyone's going to get in the raid. His guild runs a Warden who is 'really good'. The intimation in the discussion was if you didn't suck you'd never sit.

Was really annoying, and sorry but I can't post ss's.

WC-Larry

You should have implied if his guild didnt suck then they would never need the warden