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Old 10-07-2008, 11:22 PM  
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Default could use some help with a heal sequence

ok whats the best heal sequence for a warden? i give it every thing i got and still not doing the job. i have tryed diff stacks and just cant get it down. my aa is good but just cant seem to get over the hump.

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There really is no order per say really. Its all about saving the right heals for the right moments.

Generally it is good practice to maintain Photosynthesis (single target regen) at all times. Its possible to keep it up at all times even with zero recast mod and wild regeneration AA. I like to throw in Sylvan Bloom (quick cast open hands heal) a lot of the time too to keep the stack up. On mobs with timed AEs I will precast Healstorm (Group regen) shortly before the AOE hits. If there are no timeable AE damages then I will try to maintain Healstorm along with Photosynthesis. I will usually save Tide of Healing (group direct heal) and Grand Florescence (slower cast closed hands heal) for responding to damage when the hit point spike actually happens.

If you're talking about straight spam healing and hot stacking then here is the order I will run.

Healstorm >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Photosynthesis >>
Tide of Healing >>
Grand Florescence >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Photosynthesis >>
Healstorm >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Tide of Healing >>
Photosynthesis >>
Grand Florescence >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Etc.

The principle behind my spam casting comes in the priority of my first 5 heal casts. I will follow that order if all possible. I will cast Healstorm everytime it is up. I will cast Sylvan Bloom everytime it is up unless Healstorm is up then I will cast Healstorm first. You basically cast the spells every time they refresh and if there is ever more than one spell up at the same time refer to the casting priority to decide which to cast to cast first.

Hope this helps some. You not feeling like youre able to cut it could be a combination of several different factors. It could be your casting order, it could be your gear, or it could be your spell quality. Getting Adept IIIs or Masters will help your healing capability a ton and getting yourself setup with the right gear pushes that even further.

Remember its not always about spamming your heals and maintaining the stack. Its more about casting the right heals at the right time and learning which times are right for which spell comes with practice and patience.

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:07 PM  
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Default Re: could use some help with a heal sequence

wow nice post larry. very in depth

If the tank is gettin hit hard on pulls, i usually precast healstorm and then photosynthesis right before the pull. I cast bloom as the mob reaches the tank with my finger on Florescence. Cast healstorm and photo everytime theyre up and try to time AEs with a healstorm just before they hit and tide of healing just after they hit.

Ive been able to keep tanks up through every mob in the game using that system, but Larrys prolly is more efficient lol.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:39 PM  
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Default Re: could use some help with a heal sequence

What level and how many AA you have?
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wow nice post larry. very in depth

If the tank is gettin hit hard on pulls, i usually precast healstorm and then photosynthesis right before the pull. I cast bloom as the mob reaches the tank with my finger on Florescence. Cast healstorm and photo everytime theyre up and try to time AEs with a healstorm just before they hit and tide of healing just after they hit.

Ive been able to keep tanks up through every mob in the game using that system, but Larrys prolly is more efficient lol.
Thats more or less what I said in the first part of my post.

Maintain Photo and try to maintain Healstorm or time it with an INC AE. Use Bloom just to spam to maintain the stack and save GF and Tide for the actual healing.
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thanks next group iam in i will give it a shot. thanks once again.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:19 AM  
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Thats more or less what I said in the first part of my post.

Maintain Photo and try to maintain Healstorm or time it with an INC AE. Use Bloom just to spam to maintain the stack and save GF and Tide for the actual healing.
lol oh. I just looked at the list below that
i promise i didnt look at ur post and try to regurgitate it and take credit
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Default Re: could use some help with a heal sequence

Yup, I precast Photosynthesis and Purity, then right after the pull Healstorm and Tide of Healing. I keep those 4 cast whenever they are up.

I think the 'trick' to Wardening is also understanding that if you wait for damage to happen and try to catch up, in some cases you might not be able to. If you are proactive and (as WClarry says) have good quality spells - you won't be (or feel like you are) scrambling so much.

We usually don't have to worry about saving power for heals (unless you are below about level 20 or so..) or being judicious about when and where we heal cause of casting times. So it boils down to what casting order makes the most sense, and I do pretty much the same casting order listed.
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There really is no order per say really. Its all about saving the right heals for the right moments.

Generally it is good practice to maintain Photosynthesis (single target regen) at all times. Its possible to keep it up at all times even with zero recast mod and wild regeneration AA. I like to throw in Sylvan Bloom (quick cast open hands heal) a lot of the time too to keep the stack up. On mobs with timed AEs I will precast Healstorm (Group regen) shortly before the AOE hits. If there are no timeable AE damages then I will try to maintain Healstorm along with Photosynthesis. I will usually save Tide of Healing (group direct heal) and Grand Florescence (slower cast closed hands heal) for responding to damage when the hit point spike actually happens.

If you're talking about straight spam healing and hot stacking then here is the order I will run.

Healstorm >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Photosynthesis >>
Tide of Healing >>
Grand Florescence >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Photosynthesis >>
Healstorm >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Tide of Healing >>
Photosynthesis >>
Grand Florescence >>
Sylvan Bloom >>
Etc.

The principle behind my spam casting comes in the priority of my first 5 heal casts. I will follow that order if all possible. I will cast Healstorm everytime it is up. I will cast Sylvan Bloom everytime it is up unless Healstorm is up then I will cast Healstorm first. You basically cast the spells every time they refresh and if there is ever more than one spell up at the same time refer to the casting priority to decide which to cast to cast first.

Hope this helps some. You not feeling like youre able to cut it could be a combination of several different factors. It could be your casting order, it could be your gear, or it could be your spell quality. Getting Adept IIIs or Masters will help your healing capability a ton and getting yourself setup with the right gear pushes that even further.

Remember its not always about spamming your heals and maintaining the stack. Its more about casting the right heals at the right time and learning which times are right for which spell comes with practice and patience.
I've always stacked the single HoT and group HoT. Using the little upfront with HoT as often as you seem to really didn't seem to come into mind for me. I will put this into practice now and see how it goes...

Prehealing things to consider....
-Casting Tranquility, Ward of the Untammed
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Prehealing things to consider....
-Casting Tranquility, Ward of the Untammed
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