Warden Spell Consolidation

Ladred · 08-13-2007, 12:37 PM

As posted in the general gameplay spell consolidation thread...

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Originally Posted by Aeralik

Nice start but lets do that in the subclass forums please

It's hard to keep up with subclass specifics in a thread like this. Just a thread similar to the epic items with spells you would like to have merged(or things that you wouldnt) would be great.

So, with that, which spells would you like to have consolidated, and which ones would you vehemetly kick your neighbors dog if they consolidated?

asria · 08-14-2007, 03:57 PM

I don't know how I feel about this.

on one hand, what LFG is saying about consolidating cures makes sense... but that sort of makes tranquility worthless, doesn't it? it's a nice 700 pt heal but it's got such a beast of a recast it'd go right back off my hotbar. i guess if the cure thing was to go into effect i'd like to see the 700pt heal added to verdant bliss (or whatever the 74 upgrade will be). i also like being able to choose what group buffs I'm using since when on the odd chance i'm tossed in the MT group i'm not running protection of the oak in favour of aspect on all healers. i don't like the idea of consolidating our nukes/CAs since I have gear that procs, unless you move glacial cold/subzero together and give it a smaller recast on it. I like having two individual death interventions. and heals... i don't know, i'd LOVE to see something done about the tree but i don't know that merging it with anyone would be the answer. i still think that they could safely change it to a little orange flower bush and make raiding members happy world wide. but I digress...

i think it's also true I have lu13 jitters :\

Kisy · 08-15-2007, 02:01 PM

changing cures imho is stupid... you lose control on what cures to cure and when - but thats just my opinion

Edit / Addition: On the SOE forums they were discussing a Forest of Terror. Though I think most decided that having multi trees popping up would just make more and more peeps mad during a raid and its not like they aint mad at us enough for our Protective Grove.

Windle · 08-15-2007, 02:28 PM

I really can't think of anything that needs consolidation, or would be beneficial consolidating.

I wouldn't even want to see our standing group buffs merged. I like the ability to drop one or more to put Aspect of the Owl on more people. I regularly leave the phys mit group buff down and put Owl on the dirge. If the group buffs were merged and made 3 conc slots, I wouldn't be able to do that and put Owl on others also.

And agree the huge tree needs to go, especially when many have to turn their gfx down to raid. But that's now an ancient and futile plea. All we can do now is laugh about it.

Veedub · 08-16-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Windle

I wouldn't even want to see our standing group buffs merged. I like the ability to drop one or more to put Aspect of the Owl on more people. I regularly leave the phys mit group buff down and put Owl on the dirge. If the group buffs were merged and made 3 conc slots, I wouldn't be able to do that and put Owl on others also.

Agreed, once in a while iim put in the MT grp and since out mit buff doesn't stack with the defilers/templars I usually throw AoTH on both healers to give em a boost in power. If they do consolidate group buffs at least leave that one on its own so we have that option still.

Consolidating cures seems ridiculous imo, i'm really curious on how that would work.

Consolidate ideas:

1. Spores and Thorns in one spell
2. If your gonna consolidate all cures then put Tranquility with the consolidated cure, that way you wont hear us bitch about Tranquility's long casting time.

Will ad more as i think of em

Eminaria · 08-19-2007, 07:04 PM

Leave all warden spells as is (when it comes to consolidation atleast), and dont change the cures into one either imo

WC-Larry · 08-20-2007, 05:41 PM

I wouldn't mind our group buffs being consolidated IF the new spell only required one concentration slot, however, if we are forced to run ONE group buff that takes up 3/5 our concentration, then fuck you SOE for ruining my ability to maximize my buffs for a particular group.

I don't see the cures being consolidated as a big thing, just more of a dumbing down of the game, which kind of sucks since its pretty dumb as it is.

I don't think consolidating spores and thorns would be a good idea either, seeing as how thorns is raid wide and spores isn't... However if they want to throw us a bone and make spores raid wide also, then I'm all for that.

Theres not a whole lot I could really envision as being successfully consolidated without pissing me off. Like I said, I don't mind at all not having to cast as many buffs when I die so long as the new spell only takes one concentration slot. If the one single group buff requires 3 concentration slots, then thats just uber suck and taking away any flexibility or player choice there was to make.

gitana · 08-20-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Veedub

Consolidate ideas:

1. Spores and Thorns in one spell

That its really dumb to consolidate, one procs heals other procs damage and there are lot times u dont want both on same player. Also there its a few fights where u dont want the thorns on the main tank at all.

I have no clue which spells consolidate for warden, so better not say anything vs saying something dumb, that its for the official forums.

Veedub · 08-20-2007, 07:11 PM

Good call on spores and thorns, wasn't thinking about thorns being raid wide when i thought of the idea. There isn't anything I would want them to consolidate, and I totally agree on consolidating cures is going to be a horrible idea.

Ladred · 08-20-2007, 07:29 PM

What about combining thorns with primeval instinct? Make it a short duration buff over time that increases the melee weapon stats and adds a large stacking damage shield.