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Old 12-13-2007, 07:34 PM  
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Default Re: Spell Crit, Spell Damage Etc

IMO below 500 Spell damage
1 Crit = 20-22 Spell damage

After that not all spells get spell damage so it will be not as valuable higher then this<still better then nothing>

As for casting and recast, I would say 1 Casting = 1.5 recast.

For comparing the 2 I'm not certain yet but I think:

1 Crit = 1.5 Casting
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:59 AM  
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On the note of the reet helm. The whole quest reward/collection was brought to my attention late. Any sorceres still sporting this helm after the reuse proc nerf? So now at best the helm is giving 6% reuse speed, thankfully stacking with the Unrest cloak. Anyone find it greater value than a +3% crit helm? Oddly enuf I still want the bright pink helm, it'll get use in one of the two head slots I can throw it in lmao. I really need a new neck, my neck peice is ghetto by EoF standards.

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Old 12-14-2007, 12:14 PM  
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i need to get the 4% crit symbol from vualts still it wont drop , currently run about 41-45% crit on raids (without and with potion) and i think i have a few hundred boe i'll count it all up whne i get home from work...if your low on boe there is a 2% crit 95 BOE helm
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:58 PM  
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Is there an AA calculator that you can mess with when you're stuck at work and not able to move points?
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:40 PM  
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not that i know about... but that was a nice feature on WoW's site
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Old 12-15-2007, 08:47 PM  
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from mine calculations:
1% spell haste euqal to 11 boe for 29+ (thats not the exact lenght - im too lazy to look at my calculations atm) sec lenght, thats 3 solo mob lines on average (used to make such conversion when calculated zet vs ro cloak effectivity). Your buffs, and all thouse debuffs on mobs are excluded, also when I did it my warlock had all thouse effects from agi line (14 spell cast, 12 spell reusee).
1% spell crit is very dangerous to convert into boe if you want to calculate spell rotation effectivity its more an abstract model then a real boe conversion.

Here is my 2 cents. If you have your own experience on the subject, im all yours for conversation. Everything I say is arguable.

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Old 12-19-2007, 04:20 PM  
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i really dont think 1 crit = 11 boe, crit is alot better, i mean for us because our spells are such high damage we have a high boe cap for spells bc the cap is 1/2 the max of the spell, and also crits do really well for us bc our spells take so long to cast we crit alot. personally run 41-45 crits on raids and maybe 350 boe atm

Edit: no EoF or Rok raid gear

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Old 12-21-2007, 06:39 PM  
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Another variable to throw out there is that crits are variable dependent upon the level of the mob. You'll see way more crits versus greens than you will versus OJs.

I think having such a high SD cap is actually worse for us. Think about it:

1 mage with 1.75 casting time nuke, 1000 base damage, with +500 SD. Casts
2 spells in 4.0 seconds, does 3000 damage.

1 mage with a 3.50 casting time nuke, 2000 base damage, with +500 SD. Casts
1 spell in 4.0 seconds, does 2500 damage.

So fast casters benefit more from +SD than slow ones. Yes we have a higher cap, but that just means we need more SD to get to where other casters can get.

I'm getting fairly comfortable with my formula that 1 crit = 25 SD = 1% cast bonus = 1% recast bonus. Thing is I've gathered over 750 SD now (its on everything nowadays) so I am beginning to hit those 50% of max caps.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:37 PM  
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I am having a delima when finding out the right combination as well. Self buffed I sit at around 1k spell dmg, 38% crit, and id say around 8% inrease reuse time from gear alone.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:21 AM  
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My warlock is sitting around 38% crits sell buffed, 870 +spell damage gear on. Haven't worked out her reuse gear yet, but I have 3 bits of the Blistered Strand set which would give me 5 reduction, although I'd have to swap out gear I prefer to get that bonus...
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