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Old 04-23-2008, 05:12 PM  
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ok, well here it is, now with the ability to get 100% spell crit in raids with a bard buff, i'm wondering if the str line is now obsolite. I think this because whats an extra 12% crit when you don't really need it. I understand its 100% on a lvl 80 mob so it will help on those lvl 87+88 mobs in the harder raid areas but i'm trying to figure out what could possible help more for lines.

I look at the positive for sta you get more hp and if you max out the second to last line it will up your disruption by 50ish. This could be huge on raid mobs because there i a noticible diference when the bard puts up the spell that increases this already. Resist are the suck right now and i rather have my spell hit then not hit at all.

Int line you get dehate, and the end line you get a shadow slip. I'm really not stealing agro as much anymore with the overpowering of scouts and with all the stoneskin gear i'm really not that concerned if i do, hell i have tanked avatar adds on flame without dying so meh.

I'm thinking as a RAIDING warlock would AGI+WIS+STA be the way to go now instead of STR. TBH i think 75% crit would be better with all that extra distortion. Well maybe i'm just crazy let me hear back from you guys and gals
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ps i take back the gals since there is no females playing warlocks, but we can start that argument up in another thread
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:54 PM  
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Nyave and Evillust are chicks..I think. So not only dudes play warlocks :P
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:53 PM  
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just because you have 100% crit with one set of gear and STR line doesn't mean there aren't better gear options which raise other modifiers, lowering your crit to you 75%number, increasing your overall dps

str agi wis is still the way to go.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:34 PM  
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IDK i'm just trying to tweak things i guess
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:02 AM  
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ok, well here it is, now with the ability to get 100% spell crit in raids with a bard buff, i'm wondering if the str line is now obsolite. I think this because whats an extra 12% crit when you don't really need it. I understand its 100% on a lvl 80 mob so it will help on those lvl 87+88 mobs in the harder raid areas but i'm trying to figure out what could possible help more for lines.

I look at the positive for sta you get more hp and if you max out the second to last line it will up your disruption by 50ish. This could be huge on raid mobs because there i a noticible diference when the bard puts up the spell that increases this already. Resist are the suck right now and i rather have my spell hit then not hit at all.

Int line you get dehate, and the end line you get a shadow slip. I'm really not stealing agro as much anymore with the overpowering of scouts and with all the stoneskin gear i'm really not that concerned if i do, hell i have tanked avatar adds on flame without dying so meh.

I'm thinking as a RAIDING warlock would AGI+WIS+STA be the way to go now instead of STR. TBH i think 75% crit would be better with all that extra distortion. Well maybe i'm just crazy let me hear back from you guys and gals
Elcora
ps i take back the gals since there is no females playing warlocks, but we can start that argument up in another thread
Actually i was almost thinking the same thing with spell haste. With Time Compression and good +casting speed gear you can reach the casting speed cap. It fuckin sucks!

PS: Yes, some girls do play warlocks! :P
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:00 PM  
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can't logically drop that tho cause it has reuse boosts too
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:30 PM  
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Iru is now a Warlock and I'm all woman matey so unless you want a biatch slapping rescind the comment about females not playing Warlocks. And yes, I know I need a new signature.
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Old 05-03-2008, 05:47 PM  
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I think even if you have 100% spell crit STR is still the best bet. Everyone has AGI and WIS already; so your options are either INT or STA.

INT is great if you normally roll without deaggro. But if you got 38% dove or 38% moderate or 41% amends then you don't really the 16% aggro, since the deaggro cap is at 50%. The end ability is very useful, but you'd have to pull points out of WIS to get it.

STA is worthless except for pvp/soloing. And in-fact, the uncontested parry from STR is probably better than the mitigation+HP from STA.

So yeah I think best bet would be sticking with STR. Especially if you do OJ content, because you can still get quite a bit bang-for-the-buck by having 100% persona-listed spellcrit. If you're still on yellows, maybe INT would be an alternative...but I would agree with the guy above a better solution would be to make replacements for crit gear.

I'm not sure why you would want to increase disruption skill...with troub+our buff we're pretty much capped out anyway.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:44 PM  
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I debated this as a wizard but the idea was hasty and after looking more into it, it really isn't a good idea.

1. In raids right now, with optimum gear choices, im getting 93 - 95% crit. I wouldn't drop STR line till I could self buff an easy 110% and even then, i'd prolly be able to swap some items that have a mix of effects, and a few future upgrades in mind carry less crit but more effects...so aside from Traks belt I don't see my current crit skyrocketing soon. Which would leave me around in the 80's for raids.

2. To get an extra end line ability we would have to drop points in freehand sorcery (assuming its at 7/8), thus losing more dps over an ability that isn't offering more neccesarily. And since dropping 12% reuse is just stupid, your looking at dropping the power consumption one. Nothing amazing but I like it more than the other 2 end lines.

3. You can easily compensate what the other two lines offer with things available in game.

STA = provides more HP and manashield to give extra survivability. Buy an HP horse, use a constitution potion, and use two +100hp adorns on rings, and there you just gained ~850 hp. Spec for the two extra 2.5% health in character traits, and spec for +STA choices as well.

INT = deaggro. This depends on gear access but -





nuff said there, traks gaze basically blows the INT endline ability out of the water. And it seems to drop almost every Trak kill instead of his belt!

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Old 05-05-2008, 09:29 AM  
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I don't have too many issues with single target aggro, the main problem is encounter aggro from time to time (boosted hp and innoruuk's childs ftw) and its my understanding that trak's gaze effect is single target?

I still lookn to get tho, sadly was not online when we went in there last.
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