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Old 11-07-2008, 09:27 AM  
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cry moar. Things shouldn't be overpowered or be usefull only for 1 class.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:41 AM  
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this is a warlock thread - in the warlock forum...
and for warlocks - it's a nerf...
You mean, you won't be getting buff stacked with every single target buff possible in the group anymore? Damn!
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:05 AM  
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LOL. New Upbeat Tempo >>> previous version. Now it's good not only for warlocks, but also for all other mages.
Bah,where you've seen that I were dissapointed by the new version of the Upbeat? O.o

Just said,that with this change of the buff we got around -10% of DPS.Actually on single enc Upbeat for lock~=TC,but on AE enc ... Yeah,it is still a boost.

On the other hand,new version is uber for necro.Seems to be that the best Mages group in TSO will be Templ,Illu,Troub,Necro,Wiz,SK >.< No more "fuck sake we want TC,we want this,we want that" necros FTW
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:18 AM  
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Things shouldn't be overpowered
Really?

Thats why wizzys got AAs for 4 dmg abbs and we got 2 dmg abbs and a shitty gift.Oh,yeah,I forgot about the fact,that our final AA gives real benefits only on Acid(I am talking about faster dots).For Armag and our AoE dot it will give little(actually REALLY little) benefits ONLY with the Upbeat.So we can change the descr of this AA on smth like this "1.Adds an additional 5% to the base dmg of poison spells 2.Adds 50-200 DPS depending on buffs you got".
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:24 AM  
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Really?

Thats why wizzys got AAs for 4 dmg abbs and we got 2 dmg abbs and a shitty gift.Oh,yeah,I forgot about the fact,that our final AA gives real benefits only on Acid(I am talking about faster dots).For Armag and our AoE dot it will give little(actually REALLY little) benefits ONLY with the Upbeat.So we can change the descr of this AA on smth like this "1.Adds an additional 5% to the base dmg of poison spells 2.Adds 50-200 DPS depending on buffs you got".
If you dont like poison mastery the way it is you guys should complain on the warlock aa thread and have everyone agree that it should be changed to something like heat mastery.. 5% base 5% critical..
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Really?
Really.
Warlocks always dominate on AoE encounters and a good warlock is always in top 3 on single mob fights. And given the fact that TSO has more AoE encounters than any other expansion do you really expect a big boost in your dps? Try to guess who you are if you do think so.
PS Yeah your poison mastery may suck a little a bit, but it isn't that bad.
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I logged into a warlock on beta and it makes sense that you might not see upgrades to upheavel or whatnot on the new warlock tree... you already have some of those upgrades on the original warlock tree. The AA's wizards got upgrades to on our new tree didnt get any damage bonuses on our old tree really. The only spell that you could possibly argue about is our storming tempest upgrade.. which may or may not be a little powerful.. other than that, fission is just right and what we've needed for a long time and the velium gift upgrade will be helping everyone.
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Warlocks always dominate on AoE encounters and a good warlock is always in top 3 on single mob fights. And given the fact that TSO has more AoE encounters than any other expansion do you really expect a big boost in your dps? Try to guess who you are if you do think so.
Show me where i've said that i WILL NOT be the first on AE enc(This is almost impossible atleast when lock isn't dead),show me where I've said that with new AAs lock willn't be on first or 2nd place on a single mob.

What this all trashtalking was about?Man,this is official warlock crying topic,you got the same in your wizzy's tree.

So let's say,that I want to whine and bitch around for a little >.< Anyway locks are less popular and even if I will post any shit on beta forums there willn't be enought people for make it smth like a massive dissapointment in AAs like it was with wizzys.You know why?Yeah,I will answer on this in my opinion.Coz there are really a couple of ppl that know how to play lock and what you need to do,and how all this shit working ... and ... it will be really a miracle if atleast 10% of them will join this and post smth. >.<
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Show me where i've said that i WILL NOT be the first on AE enc(This is almost impossible atleast when lock isn't dead),show me where I've said that with new AAs lock willn't be on first or 2nd place on a single mob.

What this all trashtalking was about?Man,this is official warlock crying topic,you got the same in your wizzy's tree.
And I said that you said that where? Don't start this please. I asked you a question. I can rephrase it - do you really expect to get really good AA's without nerfing other aspects of your class to balance your dps? I mean everyone who want to be overwered god of dps can roll an assssin, elsewhere you can only wish your class to be somewhat balanced. And warlocks with wizards don't really have much to bitch about atm.


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Old 11-08-2008, 07:31 PM  
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I asked you a question. I can rephrase it - do you really expect to get really good AA's without nerfing other aspects of your class to balance your dps?
Agrh,the thing I don't like so much is fckin casuality of some game parts.

Warlock is AE DPS oriented class with some single-target dmg.
Wizard is single-target oriented class with some AE dmg.

But if your hands are not in your ass or masturbating during the raid,wizzy and lock can do equal DMG both on AE and single encs.

Just expected to see a little more difference between this 2 classes in TSO...But ... fuck this anyway :D
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