most effective spell cast order??? - Page 5

Xede · 08-24-2009, 10:21 AM

cataclysm and something else is always up before i even have a chance to use dark nebula....i may use it once or twice in a fight but usually on the AE encounters the little adds die and then just start focusing on the main mob.

SageGaspar · 08-26-2009, 01:32 AM

Nebula's not bad for bigger encounters that are up for a long time, you'll get a lot of procs off it which makes it better than it looks. Also decent for heroic swarm adds, between that and the pacify on the AE taunt and rift you can keep their asses locked down a decent amount of time while you blow them up. Depends on reuse of course though, any other AE spell is a better option than nebula hehe.

Master Strike is a bit more compelling these days because 2.0+ crit mod means high spreads doesn't really matter any more -- or in other words what matters now is the average hit more than the top end damage. Might even rethink putting dissolve on my hotbar, have to take a look at it one of these days. PoM and Maestro weight even further in its favor.

Berrbe · 08-26-2009, 02:30 AM

Do you even know what you're talking about?

SageGaspar · 08-26-2009, 02:32 AM

Yep! Dissolve and other low spread spells used to be significantly more awful because the damage done is 1.3x or max damage, 1.4 with the mythical. Now that we're at 2.0x crit mod the max damage thing really doesn't matter anymore on 99% of spells so it's the average damage of the spell that takes over again.

Udoaka · 08-26-2009, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SageGaspar

Yep! Dissolve and other low spread spells used to be significantly more awful because the damage done is 1.3x or max damage, 1.4 with the mythical. Now that we're at 2.0x crit mod the max damage thing really doesn't matter anymore on 99% of spells so it's the average damage of the spell that takes over again.

lul wut?

Berrbe · 08-26-2009, 03:36 AM

He doesn't know what hes talking about.

Korvac · 08-26-2009, 03:45 AM

Break out the spreadshit and show us!!

edit-was gonna fix it to spreadshEEt but fuck it

SageGaspar · 08-26-2009, 04:07 AM

Take the average damage of your spells, multiply them by the crit multiplier (add 10 for a troub), add on any procs you have that fire guaranteed on every spell, and divide by average casting + recovery time. Dunno that I actually need to explain this to you guys by now. Crit multiplier helps spells with low spreads more than spells with high spreads which caused a bit of a shift in the balance of things.

If I have precision up with the wicked wand and gozak helm, I do per second of cast time:

Dissolve - 8080
Absolution - 8374
Distortion - 9125
Encase - 9415
Master's Strike - 10265

If I have peace of mind up as well:

Absolution - 9383
Dissolve - 9896
Distortion - 10425
Encase - 11235
Master's Strike - 12065

Berrbe · 08-26-2009, 04:17 AM

You are so retarded
Just stop, please.

SageGaspar · 08-26-2009, 04:34 AM

So is it the adding or the dividing that is confusing you? I know a couple remedial ed programs that teach calculators.