Humi

Isnt the use of spell DA limited for us anyways?
So even if they do start tossing it around it wont provide us near the benifit it would for the wizzys point for point.

Maybe someone can clarify for me what spells can and cant double attack.

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dakkota

They can all double attack. The double attack doesn't apply spell damage and the double attack is only the initial hit if its a DoT.

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Korvac

The point is not whether it's as beneficial for us as wizzies, it's that it's completely not available to us, yet our "special" crit bonus was given away like candy to all casters. Most things are more beneficial to a wiz due to their higher beginning base dmg on spells.

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Fomka

You shouldn't even think about complaining right now with the state of your class in this expansion. Unreachable aoe dps, top single target dps - what do you want?

And your logic is not right. Wizard->warlock: 10 base->10 crit bonus, boe/dmg proc->encounter positional deagro proc, 10% double spell attack->clicky on your myth.

How much dps your clicky gives you on encounters where you don't need your aoe at all? I know it's way more than 800dps that a top geared and dpsing wizard gets on average from that double spell attack. And that number is way lower on most named mobs which aren't as dumb as palace trash.

Once again, what do you want? All right, I'm all for changing your clicky for 10 double spell attack. Lowering your dps isn't bad in the end

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Fomka

Your special is still with you, it's your clicky effect. Tho at start you had 2 unique effects! Now you have 1. Maybe wizards should ask to remove 10 base damage effect for a clicky which would make our single target spells work as aoe spells? Actually it's a good idea, I think wizard community might even succeed with that complaint as it did before

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Korvac

If you want to make lateral comparisons. 10base and 10 crit bonus, lets call this a draw. 800 boe vs our "deaggro proc", gimme the boe any day of the week, that deaggro is useless. And finally 10% double spell vs our clicky that makes 2 spells somewhat better on single target. Yeah I'd pick the double spell in a heartbeat. Yes I know wizards are threatened by anything that might make a warlock better, but you can't deny the bias in itemization.

That being said I'll manage with whatever they do with our myths, I was just pointing out the disparity in the sorcerer myths since we were talking about maybe warlocks liking a little double spell chance also.

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lightcloud

10 double attack > making ecnouter spells single target.
sorry. but your retarted for thinking otherwise.

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Saltaf

it seems my comment is turning into something more than just a comment heh.

this shouldn't be a comparison of one myth to another... for that I could care less... all I am saying is that for the next expansion and our myth (as the thread is titled) to replace it I would like to see some nice amount of double spell attack chance. Unless they decay things to be so far away from cap and there is a beast of a weapon that brings us back up near cap. If we still at caps... i'm not capped in crit mod BoE or spell double attack so those three things are what interest me. I used to say procs would be the way to go for upgrading gear... but sony decided to close that door on themselves.

dakkota

All literal dps gains aside, its safe to assume there is nothing more *fun* than having spell double attack =p

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dakkota

But this is the main point I made first - you don't have to worry about replacing it....your going to keep a handful of its effects. So its a silly discussion because it wont matter. Just gotta wait and see whats offered cause, they could give us a grizzlefazzles walking stick 2.0 and we'd still get to keep a handful of our mythical effects to our toon.

And procs are still good, just not straight up damage ones. Which I think its kind of cool, maybe they will look into more unique proc effects that arn't just flat out dmg numbers, but interesting effects and bonuses. Or damage procs tied with other effects (ie. poison jewel earring, moldered flesh wrap, wizard mythical proc). Those procs are still just as valuable as ever imo.

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