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    Disclaimer: Still a n00b at Rift, go easy.

    Initially I was hoping to put together a 2 handed dps "tank". I have a fondness for 2 handers and thought I could leverage some of the other abilities in other classes to overcome the defensive downsides of not using a shield.


    Mostly I wanted to deal decent dps while not being ultra squishy and be able to hold aggro. Call it an offtank or light tank spec, whatever.

    I had planned on Champion/Warlord/Riftblade or something along those lines.

    I had hoped to use the parry, dodge and armor from the Warlord tree to stay less squishy and go dps with the rest. Levelling up to 20 the dps was way too watered down though, and I had a hard time killing things fast enough to handle adds.

    After swapping Warlord out and going Champ/RB with a 0pt BM for a bit things were way better.

    One thing that bugged me about Warlord though, despite the potential for some great bard-like utility was that I had to use your combo points to buff, which killed my dps.

    I hear post 20 that the initial BM pet no longer gets upgraded so the 0 point BM isn't worthwhile?

    Is there decent/worthwhile dps to be had from a Champ spec now? Or are 2handers garbage?

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    Haven't played in B7 yet but I did not see champ being that impressive in the dps department compared to paragon last couple of betas.

    I was trying to figure out the same thing last beta, would like to have built a 2Hander tank that can hold agro but I was not that concerned with dps so was happy enough with Champ but honestly if the Paragon is going to generate more dps and you can figure out which souls to pair it with in order to hold agro then Champ is kinda pointless for this build.

    I'm going to mess with this some more 2nite.
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    0 point BM does scale with level, you just have to buy the upgraded spell.

    Right now Paragon is just flat better DPS if your looking to DPS as a Warrior.

    It is rumored though that blocking can be done with a 2 hander, I cannot confirm or deny but some people were going to test this on this weeks Beta, so if you wanted 2 hander for the nastolgia and 2 other souls for non squishness I would go

    Champ/Warlord/Paladin if blocking is capable without a shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristerin View Post
    0 point BM does scale with level, you just have to buy the upgraded spell.
    So you can continue to upgrade the spell to cap? Someone was saying that you stopped getting upgrade options for Lesser Primal Companion or whatever it's called.

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    When I first started doing Beta it was supposedly like that, then someone confirmed to me that as long as you scale the spell level from your trainer that the pet would continue to level. If I am wrong I am just feeding you info that I was given - as I have one spec with BM in it but not for the pet, for the 21 points I put in I get the second pet, but I get the raidwide 10% DPS increase buff that permiates from the pet.

    And have not been max level to test this out (plus I already have the second pet in my spec)
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    Been playing with a Champ/BM/RB and honestly not too impressed with the DPS. Ill probably change it up for live for leveling but we will see. Endgame I have a totally different spec with different souls.

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    Level as a Paragon if you want good DPS for questing imho if you dont plan on tanking a whole bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristerin View Post
    Champ/Warlord/Paladin if blocking is capable without a shield.
    I been thinking this but question the blocking thing...time to test it out.
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    The pvp warrior soul lets you block without a shield on one of it's talents, but as far as I know there is no other way to block w/o a shield.
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    I read on the official forums a while back that they were getting blocks while two hand spec with no shield (obviously) and on PvE specs were talked about. Anyone able to confirm/deny this? Im just curious cause it would make for a good DPS tanking stance for blowing through content.
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